Colorado WRX 2025

[ASak10]

I have a tee time on Tuesday at CG.  Really hoping it clears up by then.  I need to get some swings in!

[SalamiWilliams]

Only in Colorado could we get 7 inches of snow and still have a reasonable chance to get out and play 5 days later. Will keep the fingers crossed!

[deadsolid...shank]

I think the Greeley courses will be open Sunday. At least Boomerang should be (they were going to open their range this afternoon). Highland might need the extra day and not make it til Monday. But man did it melt a lot today at 45°. 50°+ and the sun tomorrow….maybe. 
 

Not that it matters for me as we’ll be shuttling grand kids back to Highlands Ranch. 

[bobbyclampett!!]

Got a tee time for Highland Meadows Tuesday. I figured anything before that would be a little optimistic. I bet Mountain Vista range will be open Sunday, if not tomorrow. Can’t wait to hit off grass!

Edited February 24 by bobbyclampett!!

[seven dewey]

On 2/21/2025 at 9:58 AM, pseudoswede said:

 

Jeebus. Who let you in here?

I was finally able to unlock my account…you are all doomed now 😅

[deadsolid...shank]

On 2/21/2025 at 4:39 PM, deadsolid...shank said:

I think the Greeley courses will be open Sunday. At least Boomerang should be (they were going to open their range this afternoon). Highland might need the extra day and not make it til Monday. But man did it melt a lot today at 45°. 50°+ and the sun tomorrow….maybe. 
 

Not that it matters for me as we’ll be shuttling grand kids back to Highlands Ranch. 

And that’s exactly how it played out. Boomerang open today, Highland tomorrow. I saw the first of our four groups on #14 at Boomerang (must have started on#10 today due to frost) as we headed out of town.   They didn’t look like they were missing me too much!

[bobbyclampett!!]

Gonna play highland meadows tomorrow in what appears to be extreme winds. I’ll let you know how it goes. Wish I was playing Thursday or Friday instead…

[MickeyTankBank]

Had planned to take the day off work and play today then saw the 40mph wind forecast and decided to just take the day off work.

[Joelness]

7 hours ago, j4663535 said:

Had planned to take the day off work and play today then saw the 40mph wind forecast and decided to just take the day off work.

 

It got breezy today. It wasn't as bad up north. Having a lot of trees helps too. It sprinkled on us!

[bobbyclampett!!]

8 hours ago, j4663535 said:

Had planned to take the day off work and play today then saw the 40mph wind forecast and decided to just take the day off work.

I played Highland Meadows, like an idiot. It was miserable. Sustained 30mph, gusts of 40-45 the entire day. On top of that, swing felt like garbage, couldn’t feel the club face. Oh well, maybe I got a few things figured out. I’d be fine if I went the rest of my days without playing in wind like that again. 

[ASak10]

Played CG.  Same with the wind, was a little nuts and we had maybe 2 holes with a break from the wind before it came back. Good practice though and nice to swing/walk/play outside.  

[TheKrushh]

15 hours ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

I played Highland Meadows, like an idiot. It was miserable. Sustained 30mph, gusts of 40-45 the entire day. On top of that, swing felt like garbage, couldn’t feel the club face. Oh well, maybe I got a few things figured out. I’d be fine if I went the rest of my days without playing in wind like that again. 

Don't move to Iowa!

[TheKrushh]

Anyone know somewhere in the Denver area that has the Toloun 25 putters in stock or available to look at? I really like a couple of their models but I hate ordering blind. Also, shut up @CDM

[ASak10]

I got my Toulon from Gott Golf back when Brian owned it, you could call them and see if they have any in stock. Not sure if you would have to do a fitting to hit them though.  Not sure that's something you want to do though. 

 

Otherwise, not sure who sells or stocks them especially since Toulon left Callaway, but I haven't looked at putters in a store in a while.  Sorry I can't be more help. 

[CDM]

2 hours ago, TheKrushh said:

Anyone know somewhere in the Denver area that has the Toloun 25 putters in stock or available to look at? I really like a couple of their models but I hate ordering blind. Also, shut up @CDM

 

I was not going to say anything....I swear.....ever 😁

[Dancin]

14 minutes ago, CDM said:

 

I was not going to say anything....I swear.....ever 😁

Especially since you just bought another Scotty

[CDM]

18 hours ago, Dancin said:

Especially since you just bought another Scotty

 

Hahahaha not really but close.  Its new per se but the one I sent you pic's of I bought 7-8 years ago.   

 

It was something I could afford back 1987 just a few years out school and poor and it just stuck with me and always said "one day".....😊 

 

Never been gamed it, let alone leaves the box it was sent back in when SC restored / certifired it.  Tough to game as dont want to bang it up.  its 1 of the first 500 TEL3 putters made by SC.   A "first article" as SC calls it. Bettinardi milled the heads for SC in '87 and Scotty made the inserts and hand fit everything and finished them. 

 

If you find some of the '87 - '88 models and put them side by side you can see the "struggles"  they had making them LOL.   SC stopped doing that and put the "ring" around the insert so they did not have to hand fit every insert to every head. The milling is cool  and deep in areas you dont see today, like on the neck area.  The other aspects SC told me when it was restored,  the first 500 had different markings which Titleist made SC change so the Titlieist name is more prominent......not just on the little area of the sole.....  go figure

 

https://www.scottycameron.com/authentication/registry/Details.aspx?rn=A043596&registry-submit=search

 

Been through a lot of clubs over the years but only gamed 2 putters in 22 years, both SC Newport's.   Anyone else have clubs that you had to have for one reason or the other, or dont use but can not get rid of for sentimental reasons? 

 

Edit: added link to SC site as they keep record of putters they restore/certifiy 

 

Edited February 27 by CDM

[pseudoswede]

22 hours ago, TheKrushh said:

Don't move to Iowa!

 

Windy or not, that's just overall good advice.

Edited February 27 by pseudoswede

[TheKrushh]

 

1 hour ago, pseudoswede said:

 

Windy or not, that's just overall good advice.

You're not wrong there🤣 Although, my brother has a brand new house and only paid 3K for property taxes and insurance for the entire year!

[Double Mocha Man]

11 minutes ago, TheKrushh said:

 

You're not wrong there🤣 Although, my brother has a brand new house and only paid 3K for property taxes and insurance for the entire year!

 

You get what you pay for. I'll take my house with a water view on the West Coast and a milder climate.  Golf pretty much year 'round.  Though I'm still a Colorado boy, at heart.

[CDM]

On 2/26/2025 at 10:49 AM, TheKrushh said:

Anyone know somewhere in the Denver area that has the Toloun 25 putters in stock or available to look at? I really like a couple of their models but I hate ordering blind. Also, shut up @CDM

 

This shop is local.  Have to admit I had never heard of Astral Putters before, but saw one last night. The one I saw had an oil can finish which looked pretty good.  Pretty much like what is on the website under the "Tempered Steel" listing.  It was a nice looking putter.

 

I am blade person and the blade would require some work, softer bumpers it to fitt my eye. At least looking online.  

 

https://astralputters.com/ 

[MickeyTankBank]

43 minutes ago, CDM said:

 

This shop is local.  Have to admit I had never heard of Astral Putters before, but saw one last night. The one I saw had an oil can finish which looked pretty good.  Pretty much like what is on the website under the "Tempered Steel" listing.  It was a nice looking putter.

 

I am blade person and the blade would require some work, softer bumpers it to fitt my eye. At least looking online.  

 

https://astralputters.com/ 

 

Interesting concept, not sure I love the way it looks though.

[CDM]

15 minutes ago, j4663535 said:

 

Interesting concept, not sure I love the way it looks though.

 

Agree, for sure for me on the blade style.   Mallet, they have never been fit my eye so zero interesting in those.

 

@TheKrushh on the other hand he is a "special" kind of person, so who knows he might like them  🤣   JK ya bud

[jda]

Preparing for the golf show next week.  Mostly looking for cheap rounds... and some shoes.  More courses at the show this year than last.  Is Black Mesa Golf Club worth a drive to New Mexico?

[Joelness]

On 2/27/2025 at 8:34 AM, CDM said:

Been through a lot of clubs over the years but only gamed 2 putters in 22 years, both SC Newport's.   Anyone else have clubs that you had to have for one reason or the other, or dont use but can not get rid of for sentimental reasons? 

 

Ironically I just got back from a fitting at the SC gallery for my 40th next week. I mostly went for the experience and in the hope of trying some of the other materials.

 

Unfortunately they really only had all of the last two most recent putter lines to try. I will say though, my fitter was legit. Easily the best one I've done, though only the second one LOL. They did a great job of asking the right questions to start, analyzing my stroke and setup, and giving great feedback. The things he picked out were pretty spot on. My big weakness in the stroke that leads to fitting recommendations appears to be more of a straight back and through path. Because of that every fitter wants me to find something face balanced. Mike handled it well and as soon as I pointed out my path on video he asked "so what do you think about something face balanced?"

 

I've probably already talked about it here so save the story but I tried a Phantom 5 for ~4mo last year and as soon as I picked up my old Newport 2 and felt the face in my hands I couldn't go back. I tell him I won't go that far so he pulls out the fast and Squarebacks, the phantom 5.5 and a couple newports. They didn't have the brand new Studio Style Newport 2 but had both + models. We quickly narrow it down to the 5.5 and the ol' trusty Newport 2. He's talking about the science side has me in the 5.5 all day due the path so now it's time to go back and forth, so he has me start hitting putts from different ranges. I hit 7 with the 5.5, about five with the Newport and he says "you're just better with the Newport. The science says you shouldn't be but this is just the human factor and what speaks to you."

 

I didn't tell him before that moment that there was no way I was going to buy another phantom as the last one will be sold or continue to sit in the basement.

 

The best part, he suggested to pay a little homage to the old gamer and custom build the brand new one like the last one so it'll be the same custom build with the same paint fill. They don't do the cherry dot or weight stampings anymore so I'll miss those but I'm excited. He said it'll show up around the new studio style release date of March 15th.

Edited March 1 by Joelness

[bobbyclampett!!]

17 hours ago, Joelness said:

 

Ironically I just got back from a fitting at the SC gallery for my 40th next week. I mostly went for the experience and in the hope of trying some of the other materials.

 

Unfortunately they really only had all of the last two most recent putter lines to try. I will say though, my fitter was legit. Easily the best one I've done, though only the second one LOL. They did a great job of asking the right questions to start, analyzing my stroke and setup, and giving great feedback. The things he picked out were pretty spot on. My big weakness in the stroke that leads to fitting recommendations appears to be more of a straight back and through path. Because of that every fitter wants me to find something face balanced. Mike handled it well and as soon as I pointed out my path on video he asked "so what do you think about something face balanced?"

 

I've probably already talked about it here so save the story but I tried a Phantom 5 for ~4mo last year and as soon as I picked up my old Newport 2 and felt the face in my hands I couldn't go back. I tell him I won't go that far so he pulls out the fast and Squarebacks, the phantom 5.5 and a couple newports. They didn't have the brand new Studio Style Newport 2 but had both + models. We quickly narrow it down to the 5.5 and the ol' trusty Newport 2. He's talking about the science side has me in the 5.5 all day due the path so now it's time to go back and forth, so he has me start hitting putts from different ranges. I hit 7 with the 5.5, about five with the Newport and he says "you're just better with the Newport. The science says you shouldn't be but this is just the human factor and what speaks to you."

 

I didn't tell him before that moment that there was no way I was going to buy another phantom as the last one will be sold or continue to sit in the basement.

 

The best part, he suggested to pay a little homage to the old gamer and custom build the brand new one like the last one so it'll be the same custom build with the same paint fill. They don't do the cherry dot or weight stampings anymore so I'll miss those but I'm excited. He said it'll show up around the new studio style release date of March 15th.

That human factor is a funny thing! I’ve tried pretty much every putter out there and just can’t get away from the Anser. Stick with what works, you’re a great putter!

[jda]

Now that LAB has admitted that their putters do indeed have torque, they agree with what most other designers/pros are saying that people need a force to counteract in order to have feel and consistency.  The debate on whether this was learned and cannot be broken away from (players who grew up with rear shafted putters and their brains needing it now), or universal moving forward, remains.  This is true with nearly anything in life and how nobody can throw a ping pong ball faster than a baseball even though it is lighter (the arm won't move as fast with a ping pong ball in it), a sledge is easier to control than a tack hammer, etc. you need to counteract a force.

 

If a true face balance existed then the sensory receptors in your hands would not know what to do in the putting stroke and usually have a misfire from your brain which was expecting something - similar to turning the steering wheel on ice while the car is still going perfectly straight which usually cases a freakout since you are expecting something and not getting it.  This causes more issues than using corrective torque where your body can just stay smooth and steady counteracting something.  Some people just want/need more corrective torque.

 

[bobbyclampett!!]

9 hours ago, jda said:

Now that LAB has admitted that their putters do indeed have torque, they agree with what most other designers/pros are saying that people need a force to counteract in order to have feel and consistency.  The debate on whether this was learned and cannot be broken away from (players who grew up with rear shafted putters and their brains needing it now), or universal moving forward, remains.  This is true with nearly anything in life and how nobody can throw a ping pong ball faster than a baseball even though it is lighter (the arm won't move as fast with a ping pong ball in it), a sledge is easier to control than a tack hammer, etc. you need to counteract a force.

 

If a true face balance existed then the sensory receptors in your hands would not know what to do in the putting stroke and usually have a misfire from your brain which was expecting something - similar to turning the steering wheel on ice while the car is still going perfectly straight which usually cases a freakout since you are expecting something and not getting it.  This causes more issues than using corrective torque where your body can just stay smooth and steady counteracting something.  Some people just want/need more corrective torque.

 

I love this. I’ve tried LAB and face balanced and they just work completely differently from what I’m used to. If we hit putts with the LAB revealer then the LAB putter might work best, but we don’t, we hit putts with our hands. 

[Joelness]

14 hours ago, jda said:

Now that LAB has admitted that their putters do indeed have torque, they agree with what most other designers/pros are saying that people need a force to counteract in order to have feel and consistency.  The debate on whether this was learned and cannot be broken away from (players who grew up with rear shafted putters and their brains needing it now), or universal moving forward, remains.  This is true with nearly anything in life and how nobody can throw a ping pong ball faster than a baseball even though it is lighter (the arm won't move as fast with a ping pong ball in it), a sledge is easier to control than a tack hammer, etc. you need to counteract a force.

 

If a true face balance existed then the sensory receptors in your hands would not know what to do in the putting stroke and usually have a misfire from your brain which was expecting something - similar to turning the steering wheel on ice while the car is still going perfectly straight which usually cases a freakout since you are expecting something and not getting it.  This causes more issues than using corrective torque where your body can just stay smooth and steady counteracting something.  Some people just want/need more corrective torque.

 

I love this. My hands absolutely want a heavier head and a way to feel the face via a weight "imbalance." I love the look of the old putters but I hate how light they are.

 

The new one will be slightly lighter because the bodies are more than 20g lighter. This means that my old 2014 has 30g weights, the new one will have 40g weights and the old one will still be heavier. Overall there's a tradeoff of higher MOI from perimeter weighting so I'll take it.

[Joelness]

4 hours ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

I love this. I’ve tried LAB and face balanced and they just work completely differently from what I’m used to. If we hit putts with the LAB revealer then the LAB putter might work best, but we don’t, we hit putts with our hands. 

 

There's no way I could putt better with those because they are the ugliest things on the planet.