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Has anyone ever played the Callaway Apex UT 2024 bent weaker in loft?


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Basically, I am looking at a 4 way combo set, and since Callaway doesn't make a 5 iron in the UT, I was thinking just bending it weak, and shortening the shaft to make it a 5 iron, but has anyone ever played the current UT weaker in loft? I wouldn't think 2 degrees would get the club a crazy ton of bounce, but here would be the potential combo set:

 

AI 200 4 iron (21 degrees) Dynamic Gold 115 Mid X100

Apex UT 23 Degree (Bent 2 degrees weak to 25 degrees, -1 inch to 5 iron length) Dynamic Gold X100 120

Apex Pro 6-7 (1 degree weak) Dynamic Gold X100

Apex CBs 8-11 (Standard) Dynamic Gold X100

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This combo set doesn't make sense to me. The UT is meant to be the longest iron in the bag, that's why they don't make a 5. Generally, It's the longest iron in a "players" iron set, which is why it doesn't combo with the Ai200 spec wise. Instead of over complicating things, here's how I would approach this combo set:

  • Add Apex Pro 5i, Add Apex UT 4i, drop the Ai200
  • Add Apex Pro 5i, Apex Ai200 (maybe 1 degree weak), drop the Apex UT

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5 hours ago, Asiangolfer1995 said:

Basically, I am looking at a 4 way combo set, and since Callaway doesn't make a 5 iron in the UT, I was thinking just bending it weak, and shortening the shaft to make it a 5 iron, but has anyone ever played the current UT weaker in loft? I wouldn't think 2 degrees would get the club a crazy ton of bounce, but here would be the potential combo set:

 

AI 200 4 iron (21 degrees) Dynamic Gold 115 Mid X100

Apex UT 23 Degree (Bent 2 degrees weak to 25 degrees, -1 inch to 5 iron length) Dynamic Gold X100 120

Apex Pro 6-7 (1 degree weak) Dynamic Gold X100

Apex CBs 8-11 (Standard) Dynamic Gold X100

I actually ordered a 2024 Apex UT bent to 25 degrees.  I did not shorten the length enough I think, and I had a ventus blue in it.  The head was still super low spin and hot.  As the above poster said, the apex pro 5 iron, I actually experimented with that after, and it was a much better fit.

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In the Titleist side of the world, I've seen quite a few sets that do 6i-PW in a T100, then do 5i & 6i in the T200 with a Tour AD-DI shaft. You'll have to check the exact lofts, but this combo has been very popular.

 

As for Callaway, their Ai 200 released to compete directly with the Titleist line. I haven't tried it, but I would look at the Ai 200 in long irons. Build them to the normal length/.5" longer for the club, choose a 95xish AD-DI (or any lighter graphite shaft), and let them launch! Sticking with the Apex Pros in 4 and 5 is obviously an option too.

 

This set would take your irons down to about 23 degrees. That opens up a nice spot for a 7w/4h/or even a more traditional driving iron build, all depending on your preferences.

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On 2/21/2025 at 8:14 AM, Asiangolfer1995 said:

Basically, I am looking at a 4 way combo set, and since Callaway doesn't make a 5 iron in the UT, I was thinking just bending it weak, and shortening the shaft to make it a 5 iron, but has anyone ever played the current UT weaker in loft? I wouldn't think 2 degrees would get the club a crazy ton of bounce, but here would be the potential combo set:

 

AI 200 4 iron (21 degrees) Dynamic Gold 115 Mid X100

Apex UT 23 Degree (Bent 2 degrees weak to 25 degrees, -1 inch to 5 iron length) Dynamic Gold X100 120

Apex Pro 6-7 (1 degree weak) Dynamic Gold X100

Apex CBs 8-11 (Standard) Dynamic Gold X100

 

AI 200 5i bent 1* weak makes more sense to me. Or as others mentioned, Apex Pro 5 too could work, but you may lose some of that pop you were hoping for.

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22 hours ago, tilasan said:

I actually ordered a 2024 Apex UT bent to 25 degrees.  I did not shorten the length enough I think, and I had a ventus blue in it.  The head was still super low spin and hot.  As the above poster said, the apex pro 5 iron, I actually experimented with that after, and it was a much better fit.

That's good to know, that sole was on the skinnier side and was worried the pro wouldn't be spinning enough 

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On 2/21/2025 at 8:29 AM, rsballer10 said:

This combo set doesn't make sense to me. The UT is meant to be the longest iron in the bag, that's why they don't make a 5. Generally, It's the longest iron in a "players" iron set, which is why it doesn't combo with the Ai200 spec wise. Instead of over complicating things, here's how I would approach this combo set:

  • Add Apex Pro 5i, Add Apex UT 4i, drop the Ai200
  • Add Apex Pro 5i, Apex Ai200 (maybe 1 degree weak), drop the Apex UT

Basically I was looking for something in between AI 200 and Apex Pro in a 5 iron, the answer could be Ti Fusion, but I didn't like the turf interaction and Im not a fan of the paint job...

 

Now to be honest, I haven't had the opportunity to try the apex pro in a 5 iron, only 6-PW, but it does has face cup in it so I wasn't sure if that would be the move or not

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On 2/22/2025 at 11:47 AM, Asiangolfer1995 said:

Basically I was looking for something in between AI 200 and Apex Pro in a 5 iron, the answer could be Ti Fusion, but I didn't like the turf interaction and Im not a fan of the paint job...

 

Now to be honest, I haven't had the opportunity to try the apex pro in a 5 iron, only 6-PW, but it does has face cup in it so I wasn't sure if that would be the move or not

Probably just over thinking the whole thing. I can't see a performance reason to have 4 different irons. Like someone else said, you probably could use a hybrid at that point.

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T100 2023 6-PW - $-Taper 120

SM10 50F, 54S, 60T - KBS Tour 120s (50,54) Modus 125 (60)

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