Wyndham Clark - we in or out?

[Pnwpingi210]

Is blow pig not doing pressers?  We’ve heard from Rory 3 times since the wind ham “allegedly” destroyed lockers.  What gives?  Why don’t we see 72 stories on Wyndham avoiding the press.  Why aren’t the talking heads postulating on this???

[WesternRacing]

4 minutes ago, TiScape said:

M sure you can go there and yell something after he hits a drive. You just need to project ur voice over “get in the hole”, “mashed potato” n “baba booey” guy! 

 

Maybe get a group of guys to yell ‘lock-er up, lock-er up’?

[chisag]

3 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

Is blow pig not doing pressers?  We’ve heard from Rory 3 times since the wind ham “allegedly” destroyed lockers.  What gives?  Why don’t we see 72 stories on Wyndham avoiding the press.  Why aren’t the talking heads postulating on this???

 

 

... So you missed the press conference where he said he was adding this to his bag? 

[TiScape]

1 minute ago, WesternRacing said:

 

Maybe get a group of guys to yell ‘lock-er up, lock-er up’?

I have a sneaking suspicion that would b the same demo that would think it’s cool to smash stuff… So perhaps a bit of a conflict of interest. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[RoverTiger]

19 minutes ago, WesternRacing said:

Right after they announce Wyndham on the first tee at the Traveler’s, they should play the sound of a baby crying over the PA.

Or a wrecking ball.

[counselor]

1 hour ago, Titleist99 said:

 

I don't think anyone is advocating or defending the destruction of other people's property.

 

I think what is being said is that it's not that serious.

 

Some want to give him grace, while others are putting him in the same class as a serial killer. The answer lies somewhere in the middle.

The seriousness depends upon the value of the property destroyed.  Under PA law it could be as minor as a summary offense or as serious as a felony offense.  In other words, it could be considered a crime, if Oakmont chose to go that route.  Plain and simple, the conduct is completely inappropriate.

[Titleist99]

4 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

 

... All 2 yr olds throwing a tantrum have very serious passion.  🤪  Having played many sports I have found the best athletes in every venue use but control their passion in a constructive way. The Tiger full body pump comes to mind. 

 

Oh, I've seen Tiger throw clubs, take massive chunks out of the golf course. Not to mention Language that would make a sailor blush.

 

I've seen players like Davis Love take out a sprinkler head that held up a golf tournament.

 

I can go on and on, but I won't.

 

I think that it's part of the stupid game.

[WesternRacing]

Would be funny to show up on the ropes after the round and ask him to sign a binkie…

[Titleist99]

2 minutes ago, counselor said:

The seriousness depends upon the value of the property destroyed.  Under PA law it could be as minor as a summary offense or as serious as a felony offense.  In other words, it could be considered a crime, if Oakmont chose to go that route.  Plain and simple, the conduct is completely inappropriate.

No one is arguing that it's appropriate. Just part of the stupid game.

[TiScape]

‘Blow Pig goes ham on Oakmont lockers.’

 

 

Is the headline we all needed. 

[Titleist99]

5 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

 

... So you missed the press conference where he said he was adding this to his bag? 

I think that it would be appropriate to add this to some of these poster's bag, now that you mention it. 🤣

[Pnwpingi210]

1 minute ago, Titleist99 said:

No one is arguing that it's appropriate. Just part of the stupid game.

Yes, and the game can evolve and change for the better.  Just because somebody did it, and got away with it, doesn’t mean we need to accept it

[Titleist99]

Just now, Pnwpingi210 said:

Yes, and the game can evolve and change for the better.  Just because somebody did it, and got away with it, doesn’t mean we need to accept it

Clearly, it keeps you up at night.

 

(I kid)

[bcjim]

1 minute ago, Titleist99 said:

 

Oh, I've seen Tiger throw clubs, take massive chunks out of the golf course. Not to mention Language that would make a sailor blush.

 

I've seen players like Davis Love take out a sprinkler head that held up a golf tournament.

 

I can go on and on, but I won't.

 

I think that it's part of the stupid game.

Adam Hadwin destroyed a sprinkler just a month ago.  Is there a thread on that? We're police called? 😅

 

Its definitely bad behavior but if I had a dollar for every item broken in locker rooms or whatever by pro/college/HS athletes, I'd probably have quite a few dollars.  He should certainly apologize and pay up and recognize he is on a very short leash going forward.

 

Talks of ending his career, or jail, l mean, come on. It was a wicker panel on a locker.

 

In 100 years, there could be a plaque in that room commemorating the time 2023 US Open Champion snapped after a rough day at Oakmont.

[counselor]

Slamming your club on the ground after a bad shot is, or can be, part of the game.  Destroying lockers post round is not part of the game.

[chisag]

3 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

I've seen players like Davis Love take out a sprinkler head that held up a golf tournament.

 

 

... True but to be fair to DL III, it was a one time thing and he was very embarrassed. Especially since it happened at Arnie's. He says it is one of the huge regrets in his life and his Dad would have been very disappointed in him. So at least he recognized his transgression and apologized and never did anything like it again. His book "Every Shot I take" is an informative and amazing read. 

[Titleist99]

2 minutes ago, bcjim said:

Adam Hadwin destroyed a sprinkler just a month ago.  Is there a thread on that? We're police called? 😅

 

Its definitely bad behavior but if I had a dollar for every item broken in locker rooms or whatever by pro/college/HS athletes, I'd probably have quite a few dollars.  He should certainly apologize and pay up and recognize he is on a very short leash going forward.

 

Talks of ending his career, or jail, l mean, come on. It was a wicker panel on a locker.

 

In 100 years, there could be a plaque in that room commemorating the time 2023 US Open Champion snapped after a rough day at Oakmont.

100% ....

 

I think that the members were going for this reaction. 🤣

[TiScape]

*btw. If ur bored and have any interest. Baseball players destroying stuff in the dugout with both fists n bats is a fun search

[Titleist99]

2 minutes ago, counselor said:

Slamming your club on the ground after a bad shot is, or can be, part of the game.  Destroying lockers post round is not part of the game.

 

Destroying property is destroying property. 

 

There is no distinction. Someone has to repair both.

[chisag]

5 minutes ago, counselor said:

Slamming your club on the ground after a bad shot is, or can be, part of the game.

 

 

... I have found that usually those slamming their club in the ground are the same ones complaining about getting a bad lie and couldn't care less about the bad lie they just created for someone behind them. 

[TiScape]

7 minutes ago, bcjim said:

In 100 years, there could be a plaque in that room commemorating the time *2023 US Open Champion snapped after a rough day at Oakmont.

Will there be an asterisk *️⃣ on that?

I read on WRX he “stole” that US Open.

[Titleist99]

4 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

 

... True but to be fair to DL III, it was a one time thing and he was very embarrassed. Especially since it happened at Arnie's. He says it is one of the huge regrets in his life and his Dad would have been very disappointed in him. So at least he recognized his transgression and apologized and never did anything like it again. His book "E very Shot I take" is an informative and amazing read. 

Oh, OK, now you're allowed one time? The second time should require Anger management classes.

 

I can agree with that. 

[Fairways_and_Greens]

A picture of BlowPig in his hotel room Friday night was leaked to the press:

[TiScape]

This thread has officially…

 

😂

Edited June 18 by TiScape

[PedronNiall]

21 minutes ago, bcjim said:

Adam Hadwin destroyed a sprinkler just a month ago.  Is there a thread on that? We're police called? 😅

 

Its definitely bad behavior but if I had a dollar for every item broken in locker rooms or whatever by pro/college/HS athletes, I'd probably have quite a few dollars.  He should certainly apologize and pay up and recognize he is on a very short leash going forward.

 

Talks of ending his career, or jail, l mean, come on. It was a wicker panel on a locker.

 

In 100 years, there could be a plaque in that room commemorating the time 2023 US Open Champion snapped after a rough day at Oakmont.

 

Hadwin's wife put him on blast before the media could even get to it aside from the original clip and he not only had already gone to someone to talk about paying for it but he bought lunch for the whole grounds crew and made an apology well before anyone needed to step up and hold him accountable. Certainly taking a club to something out on the course right after a bad shot is less of an indicator of poor emotional regulation than getting in the locker room not owned by the league/tour/etc. and going to town.

 

It was also out of the ordinary for Hadwin. I mean, Canadian 😄.

 

No doubt it shouldn't be career-ending for Clark, but there's a pretty big difference in the circumstances and there's a much longer history of Clark not knowing how to channel his emotions in an acceptable way. 

[chisag]

Just now, Titleist99 said:

Oh, OK, now you're allowed one time? The second time should require Anger management classes.

 

I can agree with that. 

 

 

... Yea I do think everyone is entitled to one judgmental mistake. It is how we learn, especially when we are young. What we do with that knowledge is the important thing. I think it really comes down to understanding what circumstances we can control and what we can't. I do like your idea of anger management after a 2nd offense. 😇

... A few years ago playing a serious match with a friend that flew into town, I had my best front 9 ever at 5 under going into #9 after hitting a huge drive with the wind at my back. A front pin and I had to land a 58* short and let it bounce on because down grain and downwind landing on the green my ball could have rolled off the back. Hit it as well as I could but it caught the edge of a sprinkler head I couldn't see and bounced sideways into the lake. All I could do was laugh to release the tension. Getting angry and slamming my club or throwing it in the lake might have changed the outcome because I had a difficult pitch over a bunker to save my bogey and did exactly that. But my momentum was gone and hitting a near perfect shot was the culprit. Completely out of my control so why get angry? 

[RickyBubbs]

12 hours ago, TiScape said:

Then hit up the Louvre and draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa

You took a homely looking woman and turned her into a homelier but funnier looking woman. This is an improvement. Nobody likes the painting anyways, we are just told to like it. It's a mix of serene landscapes and winding paths where Leonardo tells us that "life is a journey, but sometimes you just end up settling." Why the f**k would any of us want to be reminded of that?

[BSI99]

I don't understand why we can't just use our heads here? I would hope we would all agree that something like Rory breaking a plastic tee marker 2 seconds after a bad shot is different than Wyndham destroying 100 year old lockers an hour after his round. Combined with the fact that we had the PGA incident where he could've seriously injured someone (and was worse than the locker incident IMO) just a month ago and we probably should treat this a little differently. 

[ggee6887]

The purpose of discipline is to correct an unwanted behavior so that it doesn’t occur again.  Obviously, whatever the consequences were after the club throwing incident, failed to correct that behavior.

 

It’s up to the PGA/USGA and Oakmont to determine what his consequences should or shouldn’t be.

 

If fans truly don’t approve of his behavior they can always refrain purchasing from his sponsors.  But that’s up to each individual and in my small opinion would be like shooting at a freight train with a BB gun.

[drbonesvt]

Well, I stand corrected when I first saw the picture of the smashed lockers I thought for sure it was Patrick Reed