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I've heard that folks are going with the 150 for the teensy bit more forgiveness but ordering them with more traditional lofts (34* for the 7 iron for example).  I hear that changes the offset and the bounce.  So, would the 150's bent weaker be better or worse at going through the turf?  Or, since we're not named Speith, would we really be able to tell any difference?

 

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3 minutes ago, hmccarthy3 said:

Just hate the constant strengthening of lofts. The t100 PW being 45 sucks. Since when is having another wedge in a set after a PW in a good players bag just supposed to be accepted?

 

and then they give a less lofted set that’s forgiving with the T250* and they don’t even make a 4 iron for it. Just awful. It’s like they think mid handicaps who want forgiveness but not distance don’t exist. 

 

is it that bad to just have the T100 bent 1* weak? that's what i ordered. or T250 bent 2-3* weak. i guess bending more than 2* prob starts to change things a lot, but that seems fine.

 

(i went 2* weak on T250 4i so it's 24*, and 1* weak on 5i-PW so it starts at 27* and my PW ends up at 46*)

 

 

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44 minutes ago, hmccarthy3 said:

Just hate the constant strengthening of lofts. The t100 PW being 45 sucks. Since when is having another wedge in a set after a PW in a good players bag just supposed to be accepted?

 

and then they give a less lofted set that’s forgiving with the T250* and they don’t even make a 4 iron for it. Just awful. It’s like they think mid handicaps who want forgiveness but not distance don’t exist. 


Just take less club? 

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1 hour ago, hmccarthy3 said:

Just hate the constant strengthening of lofts. The t100 PW being 45 sucks. Since when is having another wedge in a set after a PW in a good players bag just supposed to be accepted?

 

and then they give a less lofted set that’s forgiving with the T250* and they don’t even make a 4 iron for it. Just awful. It’s like they think mid handicaps who want forgiveness but not distance don’t exist. 

Bend them weak.

 

im sure Titliest did research and decided that the demographic that needs t250* weak isn’t going to play a 4 iron.  Generally on the slower end of swing speed and need launch and spin

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Anyone hit the new T250U vs the U505 and have any thoughts?
 

Not sure if I want a true hybrid replacement, or a good 230 tee club… Probably would spring for a 3i in either. Using the ZXi7 4i. Thanks

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1 hour ago, hmccarthy3 said:

Just hate the constant strengthening of lofts. The t100 PW being 45 sucks. Since when is having another wedge in a set after a PW in a good players bag just supposed to be accepted?

 

and then they give a less lofted set that’s forgiving with the T250* and they don’t even make a 4 iron for it. Just awful. It’s like they think mid handicaps who want forgiveness but not distance don’t exist. 

Likely the 250* player doesn’t posses enough speed for a 4 iron.  That is where a hybrid or 7 wood would likely come in. 

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19 minutes ago, etodd said:

Anyone hit the new T250U vs the U505 and have any thoughts?
 

Not sure if I want a true hybrid replacement, or a good 230 tee club… Probably would spring for a 3i in either. Using the ZXi7 4i. Thanks

 

I just stopped by the PGA tour superstore in Fairfax and they were pulling out the demos. I got to hit the t250u 4 iron with 80 hzrdous off the turf. This thing flies hotter than my current T200 utility in carry and total (which has an axiom 105s). Optically it looks slimmer and cleaner. I see less of the cavity on the new T250U vs the 2023 T200. Afterwards I hit the new u505 2i. I tried to hit it off the turf, but it was very difficult to get a clean strike. It did roll out to around 220 or so. Optically it didn't work for me. Off the tee it shined much better and started going out to about 230. It would strictly be a tee club only for me, and I think 5w is better in that regard. 

 

here are some numbers with the t250u 4i (not fast like most of the wrxers here lol)

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6 hours ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

The Cool Clubs guy did some robot testing. The T250 has less than 4,000 spin. 😱

 

I’ll have to watch the video.  But i have serious questions about those results 

 

My fitting i consistently was at 5700 with the 7 iron.   Today on course I spun an 8 iron back about 10 feet and several other irons with a one hop and stop snd roll a few feet into greens. 
 

 

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Just now, hmccarthy3 said:

It changes the bounce to bend. Why doesn’t Titleist just make them weaker?

If you watch the videos…titliest did that on purpose.  For the t100, The lpga wanted stronger lofts and more distance.  The PGA tour wanted more bounce on the t100 to get it out of the turf. For those reason. The strengthened the loft to give the lpga more distance, and the pga tour more bounce (by bending weak)


so that’s why they didn’t make them weaker.  The last two generations of t100 played extremely low bounce

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11 minutes ago, sirphilliam said:

 

 

I just stopped by the PGA tour superstore in Fairfax and they were pulling out the demos. I got to hit the t250u 4 iron with 80 hzrdous off the turf. This thing flies hotter than my current T200 utility in carry and total (which has an axiom 105s). Optically it looks slimmer and cleaner. I see less of the cavity on the new T250U vs the 2023 T200. Afterwards I hit the new u505 2i. I tried to hit it off the turf, but it was very difficult to get a clean strike. It did roll out to around 220 or so. Optically it didn't work for me. Off the tee it shined much better and started going out to about 230. It would strictly be a tee club only for me, and I think 5w is better in that regard. 

 

here are some numbers with the t250u 4i (not fast like most of the wrxers here lol)

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Thank you. I think I honestly would like the T250U more, coming from a “smaller” 4i. Just didn’t know what the word was on the U505. I would think I can get either one up in the air without much of a problem, so just looking for more comfort. I would think the U505 would generally launch higher than the T250U just from the shape. More “hybrid” like.

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2 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

If you watch the videos…titliest did that on purpose.  For the t100, The lpga wanted stronger lofts and more distance.  The PGA tour wanted more bounce on the t100 to get it out of the turf. For those reason. The strengthened the loft to give the lpga more distance, and the pga tour more bounce (by bending weak)


so that’s why they didn’t make them weaker.  The last two generations of t100 played extremely low bounce

Right so these aren’t even for amateur golfers. That’s the point. We all could use more forgiveness, but there’s no option for more forgiveness without what I think are dumb lofts 

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38 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

Bend them weak.

 

im sure Titliest did research and decided that the demographic that needs t250* weak isn’t going to play a 4 iron.  Generally on the slower end of swing speed and need launch and spin

Missed this post before i ssid the same thing.  One day I’ll learn to read the rest of the thread before posting 

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4 minutes ago, NoSG said:


They have explained this multiple times. 

The tech that adds forgiveness is also going to increase launch angle. Therefor they deloft to get the correct peak height and decent angles, which is what really matters.

Not really sure why people care about loft numbers so much. Titleist can build a club that goes just as high, holds greens and a shorter shaft but you are mad about the number stamped on the club.

They can say whatever they want. I’ve played 200’s and 100’s. The 200 5 iron goes further than the 100 5 iron. That’s how it is down the bag. To say it isn’t is dumb. 

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5 minutes ago, NoSG said:


They have explained this multiple times. 

The tech that adds forgiveness is also going to increase launch angle. Therefor they deloft to get the correct peak height and decent angles, which is what really matters.

Not really sure why people care about loft numbers so much. Titleist can build a club that goes just as high, holds greens and a shorter shaft but you are mad about the number stamped on the club.

The only reason they really do it is so when people go hit them they suddenly hit the 5 iron 10 yards further than their current one. It’s for sales.

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39 minutes ago, etodd said:

Thank you. I think I honestly would like the T250U more, coming from a “smaller” 4i. Just didn’t know what the word was on the U505. I would think I can get either one up in the air without much of a problem, so just looking for more comfort. I would think the U505 would generally launch higher than the T250U just from the shape. More “hybrid” like.

My strike was so much poorer with the new 2i u505 that I actually got better height with the new T250u. 

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2 hours ago, rwhitlock said:

I've heard that folks are going with the 150 for the teensy bit more forgiveness but ordering them with more traditional lofts (34* for the 7 iron for example).  I hear that changes the offset and the bounce.  So, would the 150's bent weaker be better or worse at going through the turf?  Or, since we're not named Speith, would we really be able to tell any difference?

 

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2 hours ago, ahelix said:

 

is it that bad to just have the T100 bent 1* weak? that's what i ordered. or T250 bent 2-3* weak. i guess bending more than 2* prob starts to change things a lot, but that seems fine.

 

(i went 2* weak on T250 4i so it's 24*, and 1* weak on 5i-PW so it starts at 27* and my PW ends up at 46*)

 

 

 

 

My fitter also fit me for 1* weak on T100's p-6 and then 2* weak on T150 4-5 (and3). I wasn't able to test the 150's bent but the 100's bent felt A LOT smoother on my occasional fat shots. I was a little against 1* on the 100's and 2* weak on the 150's because I could really use some distance, esp on the long irons but he had done a good job w my shafts and 100's lofting felt decent so I decided to trust him on this one. And honestly how much difference can 1* / 2* weak really make in distance loll. I guess we'll see when I get them if I like them tho.

I'm hoping that with the less offset of 1 and 2 I'll like them even more because I hate the look of offset. And even the 150's topline/sole looked a little too big for me but it wasn't THAT much difference I think between the 100 and 150's on the 4 and 5. That I remember at the time...... Maybe I should have taken a closer look 😞

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9 minutes ago, hmccarthy3 said:

They can say whatever they want. I’ve played 200’s and 100’s. The 200 5 iron goes further than the 100 5 iron. That’s how it is down the bag. To say it isn’t is dumb. 

 

8 minutes ago, hmccarthy3 said:

The only reason they really do it is so when people go hit them they suddenly hit the 5 iron 10 yards further than their current one. It’s for sales.


Of course it goes further - its a couple degrees stronger. However, if they were lofted the same the launch and peak height would be way too high. 

I'm sure marketing distance plays a part in it as does everything but I also think delofting the more forgiving clubs is the correct choice regardless of distance. Clearly Titleist and the tour pros that play these irons agree. 

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18 hours ago, CM1547 said:

Looks like they are maintaining the stock/no upcharge options. DG Mid are still $15/ea upgrade and the Project X LZ are a stock option. Iron pricing also confirmed at $215/ea so we got a little bump there.

 

Has anyone else noticed they seem to have significantly reduced the radius around the face of these? The top line is the most noticeable where it looks much more squared off than before. The back edge still looks pretty rounded, but the front edge is much sharper. That's a little disappointing for me. I loved the rounded top line that made it seem much thinner. That's one of my biggest hang ups with the Srixon ZXi5 and 7 is how flat that top line is. 

 

The biggest shock to me is seeing the lofts of the T250*. "Launch spec" is no joke. A 35 deg 7i hasn't been seen in a club like this in about 20 years. I kind of want to hit them just for fun to see it gets sent into orbit.

I think it will be crickets from the "loft jacking crew" when it comes to the T250*. I'll be floored if any of these guys say "awesome, traditional lofts, I can't wait to put these in play".

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Of course it goes further - its a couple degrees stronger. However, if they were lofted the same the launch and peak height would be way too high. 

I'm sure marketing distance plays a part in it as does everything but I also think delofting the more forgiving clubs is the correct choice regardless of distance. Clearly Titleist and the tour pros that play these irons agree. 

Do you know if there any pros that bent 100's p-6 1* and 150's 4/5 2*? It might make me feel a little better about my fitting today haha

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5 minutes ago, sirphilliam said:

My strike was so much poorer with the new 2i u505 that I actually got better height with the new T250u. 

I’m leaning T250U with a VF 95X… sounds enticing.

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1 minute ago, sparcs said:

Do you know if there any pros that bent 100's p-6 1* and 150's 4/5 2*? It might make me feel a little better about my fitting today haha


I believe most of the tour pro's playing 100's are bending them weak as mentioned in the 2nd swing video that dropped today. 

I am pretty sure Will Zalatoris has his 150's bent weak 2 degrees but could only be 1 degree. 

And considering the last iteration of T100's were 1 degree weaker, I think you are going to fine 👍

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