Pepperturbo Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, MK7Golf21 said: That can happen sometimes but every time I made it to the gym after about 15-20 mins into my workout all that is gone and enjoy it. I'd also go after work during the weekdays and found over the years of going that before getting to the gym I felt like eating a buger, fries or pizza etc. for dinner. After your workout all those cravings are gone and you feel like eating grilled chicken, vegetables etc. to fuel what you just did in the gym. I rarely felt like eating greasy pizza after working out. Yep, when I get to the gym and later walk out, I feel mighty good walking to the car, yesterday was no different. I have always enjoyed working out, it's thinking about what I can get done if I don't go, is the obstacle. LOL Over the years, discipline kept me at the office. No matter what time I left, I'd head to the gym. What I came to learn, motivation came to me, living by example. Even in my 70s, with all the demands, if I can make gym happen, those that notice, struggle to find an excuse, which makes me feel good. 🙂 Recently, my wife reminded me our son and his wife, with two babies, are mostly following my example; finding time to hit the range and gym; motivation for me. LOL But I always eat & drink what I want, just take a moderate approach to it. Edited May 23 by Pepperturbo 2 Quote Rogue ST Max at 9.5° - Diamana GT 56-S Rogue ST Max 3wd 16.5° - Tensei AV Series Blue 65-S T200 2i & T100 3i-9i - Pro 95i TS-S SM10 47° (11F), Pro 115i TS-S SM10 52° (12F) & SM9 58° (08M) - DG Tour Issue Spinner SC/CA Monterey ProV1 or Dash -ProV1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK7Golf21 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Pepperturbo said: Yep, when I get to the gym and later walk out, I feel mighty good walking to the car, yesterday was no different. I have always enjoyed working out, it's thinking about what I can get done if I don't go, is the obstacle. LOL Over the years, discipline kept me at the office. No matter what time I left, I'd head to the gym. What I came to learn, motivation came to me, living by example. Even in my 70s, with all the demands, if I can make gym happen, those that notice, struggle to find an excuse, which makes me feel good. 🙂 Recently, my wife reminded me our son and his wife, with two babies, are mostly following my example; finding time to hit the range and gym; motivation for me. LOL But I always eat & drink what I want, just take a moderate approach to it. yea, I eat and drink what I want as well but in moderation. I just felt leaving the gym in evening my appetite was totally different prior to going in. Wanted more healthy food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagolfer7 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/22/2025 at 10:58 AM, GoGoErky said: Seems a little contradictory. You don’t want to make the backswing change you need because it will affect scores during tournament season It could be hard to relate to if you don't actually play golf. April- July is peak golf season with competition. Mid Ams, state ams, us open qualifiers, local club tournaments, etc. @getitdaily grinds hard on his game. I'd trust his own judgement on when he feels best to do things with his own swing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getitdaily Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 10 minutes ago, wagolfer7 said: It could be hard to relate to if you don't actually play golf. April- July is peak golf season with competition. Mid Ams, state ams, us open qualifiers, local club tournaments, etc. @getitdaily grinds hard on his game. I'd trust his own judgement on when he feels best to do things with his own swing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoErky Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 26 minutes ago, wagolfer7 said: It could be hard to relate to if you don't actually play golf. April- July is peak golf season with competition. Mid Ams, state ams, us open qualifiers, local club tournaments, etc. @getitdaily grinds hard on his game. I'd trust his own judgement on when he feels best to do things with his own swing. I’ve played golf since 1996 and spent plenty of time working on my swing later in life with a full time job, time in the gym and family life. Yet he’s working on a “change” in his swing heading into and during tournament season. Granted he’s taking the long road to China considering that when he finally changes his setup and backswing everything he’s currently working on can and more than likely will change as will whatever “feels” he needs. Hes saying accept to push through despair choosing not to make the actual change he knows he needs to make because he doesn’t want his scores to increase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getitdaily Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, GoGoErky said: I’ve played golf since 1996 and spent plenty of time working on my swing later in life with a full time job, time in the gym and family life. Yet he’s working on a “change” in his swing heading into and during tournament season. Granted he’s taking the long road to China considering that when he finally changes his setup and backswing everything he’s currently working on can and more than likely will change as will whatever “feels” he needs. Hes saying accept to push through despair choosing not to make the actual change he knows he needs to make because he doesn’t want his scores to increase. This is where another element of discipline comes in...being disciplined to dance with the girl you brought. 1st big tournament of the season is next weekend. 2 day event at the same course I went 68-67 last year. The changes I started in late December are almost ingrained...almost. That means having the discipline to not make another change. Tournament season is in full force until early November. So new changes are OFF THE TABLE unless something drastic is needed. My play has been trending in the right direction for the last 6 weeks. So I'm gonna dance with my girl. It'll take the better part of the next 6 months to make the current changes permanent. So, I'll stay disciplined with what I know is best for my game right now. Go swing a golf club...it's been what, 3 years? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshills Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 16 hours ago, wagolfer7 said: It could be hard to relate to if you don't actually play golf. April- July is peak golf season with competition. Mid Ams, state ams, us open qualifiers, local club tournaments, etc. @getitdaily grinds hard on his game. I'd trust his own judgement on when he feels best to do things with his own swing. Good post. 😂 There’s never a good time to make a significant swing change. There’s also never a good time to stop working on your game. People who don’t play golf can’t relate no matter how much they try. 1 Quote Ping. Play Your Best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedronNiall Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/20/2025 at 7:00 PM, Rbsiedsc said: Well said. You make the important distinction of even a little bit every day can go a long ways. Its partially in the spirit of James Clear and "Atomic Habits" . If you start doing something 1% everyday, that will compound itself overtime into massive improvement. For me this is the gym 3 days a week. Taking 15 mins a day to at least do some swing feels Going on daily walks over lunch. Short, to the point post that got overlooked. If you just start a task, even just putting on your gym clothes when you don't want to go, or doing a single slow rep in the mirror with an iron, and get yourself excited about having started at all, it goes a long way in helping to rewire the brain and reinforce the positive habits you want to form. Good or bad, once we start anything we tend to keep going; rarely do we just do one rep once we start learning a new skill or working out, and rarely do we just eat one chip once we've made the effort and opened the bag. The one thing I'll disagree with from the opening post is: On 5/20/2025 at 6:18 PM, iacas said: Being disciplined isn't much fun Being disciplined is as fun or tedious as we learn to make it or view it to be. The science says if we view something as negative our brains will react to it in a way that pushes us away from doing it. The tendency of the mind is to avoid the negative. According to those Harvard people: "Negative events and thoughts have a proportionally greater impact on our memory and psychological state than positive ones do. From a survival standpoint, it makes sense — strong recollections of bad experiences means we’re more likely to learn from mistakes and avoid a life-threatening situation." Dread is a bad feeling to have towards changing behaviors. Positive events aren't as powerful, but if they are the norm as a part of carrying out a task they do help push the mind to want to do them. That's exactly why most give dogs treats for obeying as they learn to be house broken or perform a new trick rather than yelling when they don't. That's why we perform best when want to please coaches and parents to hear praise rather than avoid screaming or insults when learning to do something as children and as adults, why we get addicted to cheers and accolades rather than the avoidance of boos, and in this case, why rewarding each time we take even a single step towards forming a new habit rather than simply pushing through the dread is crucial. Charles Duhigg, author of “The Power of Habit,” describes a pattern or “habit loop” involving 3 elements; cue → routine → reward. Every behavior is a loop that follows those three elements. The more this loop is used, the more solidified that particular habit becomes. He teaches that…” habits are created by putting together a cue, a routine, and a reward, and then cultivating a craving that drives the loop” (Duhigg, 2012). Having a reward is essential in establishing a new habit. The brain learns to expect that reward each time you follow through with the cue and routine. If a reward is perceived, the brain will remember that reward for the next time (Duhigg, 2012). Rewards do not have to be tangible. For instance, feeling healthier or having pride in your work can be effective rewards. From a paper on behavior change: Among the various factors influencing the habit formation process, dopamine, a chemical messenger that links actions and rewards, plays a crucial role [9]. Additionally, the concept of friction also significantly impacts habit formation by increasing or decreasing the resistance and effort associated with a behaviour [10,11]. By making behaviours easy and automatic, individuals can decrease obstacles and increase the likelihood of sustaining the habit long term. The nature of the behaviour itself is a critical determinant; simpler, repetitive behaviours with clear cues and immediate rewards are easier to automate [46]. Additionally, the context in which the behaviour is practised plays an important role. Habits formed in stable, consistent environments are more likely to become automatic. Furthermore, personal characteristics, such as individual motivation, pre-existing routines and the presence of supportive social and environmental factors, also influence the speed of habit formation. [P]rograms should prioritise simpler, repetitive behaviours with clear cues and immediate rewards to achieve quick wins and build momentum for more complex behaviour changes. From behaviorial researcher Wendy Wood, author of Good Habits, Bad Habits, responding to a question on habit formation: Habits are a learning system and some things are harder to learn than others. So, how long it takes you to form a habit depends on things like: do you repeat the behavior consistently in the same way each time? Do you enjoy the behavior (this gets you to repeat it more often AND releases dopamine when you perform the action, which helps to build habits). How complex is the behavior --does it have many steps (complex behaviors take longer to learn)? But that said, research does give us some guidelines. You can't make a decision to form a habit by doing something once. Instead, the habit memory system builds slowly, so that each time you repeat a behavior you are incrementally strengthening the habit. It takes about 60 days/repetitions to form a simple health habit in daily life (eating fruit with breakfast)--that means, it takes that long until you are reaching for the fruit automatically, without having to think about it, and you start reaching for it before you intend to do so. Every time we can think back with positive outlook on even small things we took action towards instead of having done nothing makes a massive difference in how our minds view the new habits we're trying to build. So one, start, and two, hit the reward centers in our brain by viewing every start or rep as an accomplishment so our brain will like doing it. Few have the innate tendency to be able to go all in on something, but everyone has the systems to rewire good habits and consistent practice by degrees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacas Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, PedronNiall said: Being disciplined is as fun or tedious as we learn to make it or view it to be. I disagree with your disagreement, in this small way: It's not the "discipline" that's "fun" or "rewarding." It's the changes you see. It's the pride in doing something hard. It's all of that. The discipline isn't necessarily negative, as well, and by saying it's not "fun" I'm talking more to the difference between discipline and motivation. 3 Quote Erik J. Barzeski, PGA | Erie, PA GEARS ⚙️ • GCQuad MAX 🏌🏼♂️ • Smart2Move 3D Plates 👣 • HackMotion ✋🏼 • SAM PuttLab/Capto ⛳ I like the truth and facts. I don't deal in magic grits: 58. #FeelAintReal and Facts ≠ Opinions "Golf is the only game in which a precise knowledge of the rules can earn one a reputation for bad sportsmanship." — Pat Campbell Want swing help (from anyone)?: Please post good high-speed video from good angles, both DtL and FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbry57 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 5 hours ago, iacas said: I disagree with your disagreement, in this small way: It's not the "discipline" that's "fun" or "rewarding." It's the changes you see. It's the pride in doing something hard. It's all of that. The discipline isn't necessarily negative, as well, and by saying it's not "fun" I'm talking more to the difference between discipline and motivation. I would agree with you discipline isn't fun it's just a commitment to change whatever aspect in your life that needs focus. Motivation can spark people to get excited by the potential of what could be. In my experience when that spark dies most people quit. Discipline is what keeps the special few on the right course. It's definitely hard and not for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeanAbides Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 12 hours ago, iacas said: I disagree with your disagreement, in this small way: It's not the "discipline" that's "fun" or "rewarding." It's the changes you see. It's the pride in doing something hard. It's all of that. The discipline isn't necessarily negative, as well, and by saying it's not "fun" I'm talking more to the difference between discipline and motivation. Yeah, I'd say that discipline itself is emotionally neutral. It's our relationship to it that determines what we get out of applying it. If we decide that disciplining ourselves is a kind of punishment, we'll tend towards finding loopholes to get out of it, and that's often then compounded by guilt. If, on the other hand, we see it as a necessary tool on the path to achieving what we most want over what we want now, it's a mechanism that drives us forward. 2 Quote Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye77 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Eight pars and . . . an 8! Even with course management "changes" discipline or lack thereof is apparently important, lol. My last three 9 hole rounds I've been trying to make a point of making good decisions, some of which have related to choices off the tee box on some of our shorter holes, to some extent trying to default on approach to middle or fat part of the green, depending on angles (just as an experiment). Last night I drove the ball great except for a launch off planet right over trees into a penalty area (driver still the right play) that left a drop and trees and . . . "what the heck, I'm even, I'll hit a low, big cutting 7 wood up near the green" with my third, and five shots later a quad (including another similar try after hitting a tree the first time). Should have hit the easy shot back to the fairway for a 130ish fourth shot and at least had a chance at bogey. Point is, that's been the story the last three rounds. The other night on the other nine and a different hole - was playing up a box with a friend who needs to move up and thought it would be fun to change things up - on the 5th it was "what the heck, I'm two under, I can hit this" after already getting into trouble off the tee by hitting driver (which was very much the wrong play from the tee). And . . a triple. A couple of bogeys in (not unusual) and end up getting a score for nine holes I'm usually very happy with but you know. Won't go into the other round, same story in a different way. The 20/20 hindsight is almost immediate but there I stand intending to make good decisions and temptation is right there and not playing in any competition and can't resist trying shots just to see if I can pull them off. Good news is, it's one or two holes out of nine at the moment and things seem to be working better on the other 7 or 8, so I'm claiming progress (8 pars in none holes for me is really, really good and not the norm but seemed almost "routine") but still, last night I'm playing with my wife and a couple times (when asked) I'm saying, "just get it back in play" and . . . rules don't apply to me (and she notices, believe me). Something about all this had me thinking of this thread. Edited May 25 by Hawkeye77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedronNiall Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) On 5/24/2025 at 3:00 PM, iacas said: I disagree with your disagreement, in this small way: It's not the "discipline" that's "fun" or "rewarding." It's the changes you see. It's the pride in doing something hard. It's all of that. The discipline isn't necessarily negative, as well, and by saying it's not "fun" I'm talking more to the difference between discipline and motivation. I was just responding directly to what you said, that "being disciplined isn't fun". If someone goes in being told that building themselves into a place where they consistently do the things they need to in order to get better at something isn't fun then they're likely going to be adverse to it from the start. This isn't at all the only place where the science says perception matters. For all intents and purposes the science even finds being disciplined is "fun" in that someone repeating habits that make them better at a task they enjoy will release endorphins as they continue to improve, and even more if they've built up a good reward system around simply doing the reps and acknowledging the effort to do so. If you meant something other than what you said no worries, I just responded to what you'd written and shared research around habit formation. 11 hours ago, TheDeanAbides said: Yeah, I'd say that discipline itself is emotionally neutral. It's our relationship to it that determines what we get out of applying it. If we decide that disciplining ourselves is a kind of punishment, we'll tend towards finding loopholes to get out of it, and that's often then compounded by guilt. If, on the other hand, we see it as a necessary tool on the path to achieving what we most want over what we want now, it's a mechanism that drives us forward. What you said about how we define it aligns with what I posted previously about how the perception matters. The studies on it, most of which include some kind of brain activity monitoring or active brain scans, suggest close ties between self-control, which is the more universal scientific term for discipline, and emotional regulation. Many parts of the brain interact during acts of self-control, including emotional centers. More specifically, from one study: In sum, our results expand previous studies indicating that state self-control is associated with emotion regulation abilities (Wagner and Heatherton, 2013), by showing that trait self-control is directly related to successful down-regulation of negative emotions. Most behavioral practices backed by study include the use of things like mindfulness or being aware of body and mental states before, during, and after certain actions as well as actively incorporating positive emotions into new behavior and habit formation. Rather than simply regulating down negative emotion, more recent findings, again backed by scans, show the more effective way to shift behavior is to cultivate positive emotions right after successfully taking at least a first step in a task even if that's all that is done. From another study, TSC is trait self-control: Building on insights from the instrumental theory of emotion regulation (Tamir, Citation2009a), three studies examined how differences in TSC influenced beliefs about the utility of emotions and emotion regulation in performance contexts that were high and low in self-control demand. We found evidence that people believed that positive vs. negative emotions would be more useful to their performance in these contexts and that they demonstrated greater attempts to regulate their emotions to increase positive vs. negative emotions, although the self-control demand of the situation did not moderate these effects. We further found that increased positive emotions facilitated self-control performance when people initially expected to perform a self-control task. There was mixed support for our prediction that TSC would influence these processes. People higher vs. lower in TSC believed that positive emotions would be more useful and that negative emotions would be less useful to their performance across contexts, replicating Tornquist and Miles (Citation2019). Moreover, while TSC did not predict attempts to regulate emotions, people higher vs. lower TSC experienced higher levels of positive emotions and lower levels of negative emotions after the emotion regulation task, which enhanced their subsequent self-control performance, although these findings should be regarded as preliminary. Emotion utility beliefs Tornquist and Miles (Citation2019) showed that people consider positive emotions more useful for their everyday self-control success than negative emotions, and that people higher, relative to lower, in TSC consider positive emotions more useful and negative emotions less useful in these situations. Attempts to regulate emotions In extending Tornquist and Miles’s (Citation2019) study, Study 1b and Study 2 allowed us to examine people’s attempts to regulate emotions, as measured by their preferences and choice to engage in emotion-eliciting activities (i.e., personal recall) that varied by emotion (this paradigm is discussed below). We found that participants demonstrated greater preferences, and were more likely to choose, to engage in activities aimed at increasing positive vs. negative emotions, when expecting to perform tasks that were high and low in self-control demand... Our findings therefore provide tentative evidence that people believe that positive emotions can help them to succeed in situations that are high and low in self-control demand, and that they might attempt to upregulate positive emotions in both situations. One potential explanation for these findings could be that positive emotions are equally adaptive in situations that are high and low in self-control demand, and that participants’ beliefs about the utility of positive emotions and attempts to regulate positive emotions were therefore similar in these situations. This is perhaps unsurprising given that positive (vs. negative) emotions are more adaptive for performance in general (Fredrickson, Citation2001). Importantly, we further found that preferences and choice to regulate emotions did not vary by TSC, suggesting that TSC predicted differences in beliefs about the utility of emotions but failed to predict differences in choice to regulate emotions, inconsistent with the instrumental emotion regulation framework and our predictions. One reason for why TSC failed to predict attempts to regulate emotions might be that people with high TSC regulate emotions implicitly rather than making deliberate choices about how to regulate emotions. This is consistent with research suggesting that emotion regulation can operate on automatic or implicit levels, and that people with high TSC rely on habitual automatic behaviors to achieve their goals (Converse et al., Citation2019; Gillebaart & de Ridder, Citation2015; Koole et al., Citation2015; De Ridder et al., Citation2012). Thus, perhaps TSC failed to predict preferences and choice to regulate emotions because making such choices may not be a part of a high TSC person’s daily routines, who may regulate emotions without awareness and conscious control to achieve their goals. I've not seen anything in modern literature suggesting discipline--self-control--by any traditional definitions is emotionally neutral in either how we experience and express it or how to best address making it a part of how we carry out activities. Happy to look at any that contrasts. There are even possibilities based on clinical outcomes that discipline/self-control is expression of a set of positive emotional states or interactions in the brain, but as of now there's no scan or brain activity study data tied to it AFAIK. In other words, at least some credentialed, practicing clinicians have found better outcomes when they have clients focus on a specific outcome in a positive way and focus/draw on the emotions before diving in on concrete, repeatable actions related to the outcome in order to build discipline/self-control. Edited May 25 by PedronNiall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacas Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 12 minutes ago, PedronNiall said: I was just responding directly to what you said, that "being disciplined isn't fun". I'm still on the island of "it's not." The discipline to do something somewhat boring (the other topic mentioned) isn't fun in and of itself. I understand all of what you're saying. 12 minutes ago, PedronNiall said: If someone goes in being told that building themselves into a place where they consistently do the things they need to in order to get better at something isn't fun then they're likely going to be adverse to it from the start. And if you lie to them and tell them it'll be fun, and they quickly discover that it's not… they'll bail even harder. 12 minutes ago, PedronNiall said: For all intents and purposes the science even finds being disciplined is "fun" in that someone repeating habits that make them better at a task they enjoy will release endorphins as they continue to improve, and even more if they've built up a good reward system around simply doing the reps and acknowledging the effort to do so. Again, the discipline isn't what's fun there. The improvement is at something they enjoy is what's fun. You can be disciplined and work on the wrong things and get worse, too, and that's really not fun. 12 minutes ago, PedronNiall said: If you meant something other than what you said no worries, I just responded to what you'd written and shared research around habit formation. No, I meant and mean what I've written. 1 Quote Erik J. Barzeski, PGA | Erie, PA GEARS ⚙️ • GCQuad MAX 🏌🏼♂️ • Smart2Move 3D Plates 👣 • HackMotion ✋🏼 • SAM PuttLab/Capto ⛳ I like the truth and facts. I don't deal in magic grits: 58. #FeelAintReal and Facts ≠ Opinions "Golf is the only game in which a precise knowledge of the rules can earn one a reputation for bad sportsmanship." — Pat Campbell Want swing help (from anyone)?: Please post good high-speed video from good angles, both DtL and FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbsiedsc Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Was disciplined today. Lots of slow swings with feels then taking breaks. Did the two iron drills from breaking 100, then 90. The double wall drill feel and the three ball drill. Then I did the boring thing and practiced putting with an alignment mirror to set my eyeliner proper. All hopes doing this on the daily will net gains in 6 months. Quote Driver: Mizuno ST Max 9.5* 45" Tensei 1k Black 65x tipped 1/2" 4w: '22 Rogue ST LS 16.5 Tensei AV Blue 75x 7w: '22 Callaway Apex UW 21 80s MMT DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH 95 4-AW: PXG OG 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long MOI matched Wedges: Cleveland Zipcore 54 Full/58 Mid Putter: DF2.1 35"69* in blue (Testing OZ1i 35" with TPT) Ball: 2025 Maxfli Tour Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caniac6 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 5/20/2025 at 9:49 PM, Hawkeye77 said: I can't even summon the discipline to finish reading it after now coming back for the third time, lol. Not saying it isn't 100% on point, not at all, but I'm watching the NCAA women right now and then saw there were incredible looking new Titleist irons to look at in the Tour Release forum and then had to go grab some crackers and then came back to this again thinking I'd finish it --- there's a reason my handicap has stalled out. Yep, my wife comes into the family room while I’m watching a ball game, and asks me how many things am I doing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forged4ever Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) On 5/20/2025 at 6:18 PM, iacas said: I'm going to use the same image I used in this thread about good practice being boring practice to kick off a discussion specifically about the word in the title: discipline. That image is to the right here. ---> Whether it's Scottie Scheffler using his training grip every day, or Justin Thomas learning that he needs to re-find his "home base" (X link) for his putting, or Tiger taking a year working on something before he calls Butch (or Hank, or Sean, or Chris) to say "I've got it," or even a golfer on the course aiming away from a flagstick, discipline may be the single most important skill in golf. Top three for sure (don't hold me to that! 🤣). I don't always stay disciplined. I don't record video quite as often as I should… I don't go quite as slowly as I should. And yet… I do those things about 15-20x as often as most golfers. Discipline is making yourself practice something at home at least 15 minutes a day (even if that's five three-minute sessions). Discipline is making yourself see no evil, hear no evil when looking at social media swing tips and just focusing on your one priority piece. Discipline is doing it with nearly constant feedback — recording videos, training aids or "stations" — at the right (almost surely slower than you most can possibly imagine at first) speeds. (Here's a search on X showing a few of my practice stations. They're often pretty similar because… I'm almost always working on similar things.) A typical golfer thinks I'm nuts. I've said on my podcast and written it here on GolfWRX that sometimes, a great practice session includes 50% shanks. Discipline is often not caring where the ball is going. More and more society seems to be chasing instant gratification. Can't beat that game? Just buy a level-up. Want to get some "likes"? Post an (edited, quite often faked in some way) selfie or something from the beach (ignoring the screaming kids 20 feet away, the sand fleas biting your legs, the sunburn you'll get from forgetting to put sunscreen on the back of your calves, etc.) and your friends will like it by rote and you'll feel a smidgen better about yourself. Golf is not that. Golf is not instant gratification. Golf is WORK. Improvement at golf requires trust that the light will be at the end of the tunnel, because unless you're highly sensitive to seeing light in a small change (or a larger change at a slow speed), the light at the end of the tunnel is often a LONG ways off. (This is one of the reasons why some people — I'm not saying anyone here — love the "work on your short game and putting" approach. It's one of the closest things to instant gratification that you'll find in golf, limited as the gains may be. They can see a few more balls going in the hole and see tangible relatively quick improvement. Again, though, it's often small improvement, and it doesn't necessarily stick.) Few things are more frustrating than giving a great lesson to a 20 handicapper, having them pause, using mirrors, recording every third swing and reviewing it with them, making them hit the ball only 50 yards or so, and leaving them with a very clear message about what and how to practice… only for them to text you the next day with "I went to the range, it went horribly, here's a video of my swing (at full speed, with no rehearsals), what am I doing wrong?" (This is particularly frustrating when you've helped someone for free and they seem to understand and believe everything, and then you see the same type of response and no evidence of them actually putting in the work.) Even super experienced golfers and lower index players often think (subconsciously at least) that they're going to "get better" from just taking a lesson and practicing for 40 minutes during that lesson. After all, most golfers start to hit it better at the end of the lesson than they were at the beginning. But… golf doesn't work that way. Not at full speed, not quickly. Being disciplined isn't much fun (getting better can be, but there are a lot of valleys between the small peaks). It means spending 15-60 minutes a day (or five days a week, or whatever) being focused on taking small steps. It means knowing that some days you may actually take a step back, but it won't be as far back as going two or three days without putting in the work. It means knowing that the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. How disciplined are you? Could you spend ten minutes less scrolling Instagram or X and spend that on your golf game? While you're waiting for your popcorn, could you use the reflection in your patio door window to work on your golf swing? Can you go at the right speed, with a station set up, and record yourself frequently? Can you? Or, more importantly… Will you? THIS, should be pinned at the top of EVERY section of this board!!! If they don't want to pin the whole post, which they should, at least post the black image at the beginning!! The kicker? That discipline applies to EVERY area of one's life, whether it be athletic, academic, professional or personal!! Superbly Played👊 RP Edited May 26 by Forged4ever 3 Quote In the end, only three things matter~ <br /><br />How much that you loved...<br /><br />How mightily that you lived...<br /><br />How gracefully that you accepted both victory & defeat...<br /><br /><br /><br />GHIN: Beefeater 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nels55 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Regarding discipline, something that I have learned and practiced is how to not buy bad stuff to eat at the supermarket. If I see some high sugar, high sodium snack food that I have found memories of eating and I say to myself; "I can't eat that." I will quite likely buy it. But if I say to myself; "I don't eat that garbage." It will not end up in the cart. I see that as a case of negative vs. positive thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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