Scotty Scheffler boring to watch?

[Dutch1008]

Dull...

 

 

[Dutch1008]

Lame...

 

 

[Titleist99]

1 hour ago, Barfolomew said:

 

Hahaha golf is serious business..... are other sports serious or just golf? 

 

Smallest amount of fan engagement, high five a kid give out balls and gloves and he would be #1 fan favorite and commentators would eat it up

 

just looking for where I said golf was the only serious business.

 

To my knowledge, all touring pros give out balls, sign autographs, etc....

 

What's your point?

[Lord Viking]

People can't stand brandle chamblee, but he's definitely not boring

I enjoy watching scheffler play golf & I enjoy listening to brandle talk about scheffler playing golf.

[PowerFade36]

Fantastic golfer. Best since Tiger. But absolutely boring to me. 

[grm24]

For all of the people here at WRX and elsewhere that think players X, Y and Z are boring I'd love to see what your personalities are like IRL. Probably duller than twice used dish water and the player they are whining about. 

[Lord Viking]

58 minutes ago, grm24 said:

For all of the people here at WRX and elsewhere that think players X, Y and Z are boring I'd love to see what your personalities are like IRL. Probably duller than twice used dish water and the player they are whining about. 

Plus suck at golf... compared to scheffler

[grm24]

2 hours ago, Lord Viking said:

Plus suck at golf

FIFY

[iBanesto]

No boring footwork...

 

[TiScape]

10 hours ago, grm24 said:

For all of the people here at WRX and elsewhere that think players X, Y and Z are boring *I'd love to see what your personalities are like IRL*. Probably duller than twice used dish water and the player they are whining about. 

DONE! Time & place??

[TiScape]

9 hours ago, Lord Viking said:

Plus suck at golf... compared to scheffler

Will admit, I’m not great. 79-85 shooter… 

But my personality more than makes up for it 😁

[Obee]

11 hours ago, grm24 said:

For all of the people here at WRX and elsewhere that think players X, Y and Z are boring I'd love to see what your personalities are like IRL. Probably duller than twice used dish water and the player they are whining about. 

 

Bring it. This is me a few years ago...

 

[PedronNiall]

23 hours ago, grm24 said:

For all of the people here at WRX and elsewhere that think players X, Y and Z are boring I'd love to see what your personalities are like IRL. Probably duller than twice used dish water and the player they are whining about. 

 

Really has nothing to do with it. People watch sports to be entertained, and often the personalities are a huge part of it; maybe it used to be all about the competition but it certainly lost a good bit of that once it became so heavily monetized and marketed a certain way, especially in The States. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When they show Scheffler clips in those promos, just as with everyone else they show him with emotion being expressed. Doesn't matter if it's joy or frustration, it's been marketed as a game where people watch the players leave it all out there on the course. The PGA promo has players talking about their emotions, their thoughts, and how much it means to them. Scheffler has basically said despite his drive to win the actual victories mean little, and he shows little in the way of emotion. 

 

People are free to voice their opinions on how they find watching him or watching tournaments where he's running away with it. A big part of most entertainment is escapism, being pulled into moments and energy beyond what someone experiences in their everyday lives. Golf hasn't been known as a hot spot for letting it all hang out, but Scheffler admittedly takes it down from a 5 to about a 2 when he's getting it done compared to most others, even during the Majors. 

 

For some the golf is enough to speak for itself, for others it isn't, that simple. Nothing wrong with Brenda or Bob from Accounting wishing for someone a little more animated to be taking center stage. They aren't wrong for feeling that way or saying so as long as they aren't trying to insult Scheffler for being who he is. 

[JimMLINY]

As boring as watching Palmer and Nicklaus back in day when there was only network TV here in NY.

2 CBS (NFL, Tennis), 4 NBC (Golf, NFL, MLB GOW), 5 WNEW, 7 ABC (Wide World of Sports, MNF), 9 WOR (Mets/Jets), WPIX (Yankees, Giants) and WNET (PBS)

[iBanesto]

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[jubilee_links]

Great golf can be really boring - 

The fans love drama and jeopardy but if winning is your job you want the lowest stress possible.

Completely agree with the posts above saying the Scheffler's golf and mindset is what coaches and psychologists want you to have - its juts 99.99999999% of us cant fathom what that is like. 

[JungleJimbo]

52 minutes ago, iBanesto said:

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'Somebody else caught it': Scottie Scheffler playfully admits to doing this during Open - NBC Sports

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 28 by JungleJimbo

[Titleist99]

6 hours ago, jubilee_links said:

Great golf can be really boring - 

The fans love drama and jeopardy but if winning is your job you want the lowest stress possible.

Completely agree with the posts above saying the Scheffler's golf and mindset is what coaches and psychologists want you to have - its juts 99.99999999% of us cant fathom what that is like. 

 

*Comments are based on myself and most people that I know.

 

On TV, I mainly watch sports, specifically golf. I can safely say that I've never viewed any sports competition based on the personality of the athletes involved.  

 

Most I know watch sports for the competitive drama and sports excellence. Athletes do whatever it takes to get themselves in a position to perform at their very best on any given day. When I witness this, I'm entertained.

 

That's just me, though. I understand that some have to have a little emotion out of their athlete, but for me, regarding emotions, I couldn't care less.

[PedronNiall]

5 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

 

*Comments are based on myself and most people that I know.

 

On TV, I mainly watch sports, specifically golf. I can safely say that I've never viewed any sports competition based on the personality of the athletes involved.  

 

Most I know watch sports for the competitive drama and sports excellence. Athletes do whatever it takes to get themselves in a position to perform at their very best on any given day. When I witness this, I'm entertained.

 

That's just me, though. I understand that some have to have a little emotion out of their athlete, but for me, regarding emotions, I couldn't care less.

 

People like what they like, but the majority of sports are played up for their intensity. Most aren't watching tennis or football or skiing or anything else for the competitors who are reserved almost 24/7 during competition; golf is pretty heavy on the reserved aspect with the better players, and Scottie takes it to another level. What's the biggest complaint about women's golf? That it's boring to watch, especially as a large number of the better players have become those from countries where reserved behavior is the expectation. Many of them have great energy but they pretty much don't show it during competition and the off-course stuff isn't very heavily promoted on top of the announcers keeping it reserved. If you aren't there for the nuances then golf can still be a recipe for a nice lull into an afternoon nap. 

 

Tiger brought in enough moments of excitement and visible perseverance that the bar was raised. Tiger limped around on a broken leg; Bhatia had to get taped up because he celebrated too hard. I guess it's ironic because one of Scottie's memorable wins involved him going out injured and playing through it, but most of the time when he's winning he's in robot mode, and that just doesn't rise to the level of what the Tour began promoting golf as after Tiger showed up. Golf can certainly wind it back down, and many of the old school souls will appreciate it as much as ever, but it's moneyball now, so they have to bring both the golf fan and the casual sports fan to justify the sponsor dollars, and some are certainly going to feel Scottie falls short of what they're watching for in that regard.

 

The other irony is that Scheffler gets crap when he does let go. A little bag slam or cursing and some act like he's lost the plot. Not sure the guy can win, so one more reason not to fault him for being himself, winning his way, and not making the trophies more than he needs them to be. 

 

Still, part of sports is also the competition, and when Scottie's on fire he pretty much has none. Some felt the same with Tiger, but he gave enough electricity to it all one way or another that most still enjoyed it. Not everyone likes watching Scottie run away with it while literally not even breaking a sweat, and the way he wins has created a larger group that find it boring enough to say so. 

[Dave230]

I think personality-wise Scheffler has grown on people and is pretty interesting, just look at the past month with his press conferences in Portrush and his Happy Gilmore 2 cameos. He seems a pretty chill guy and incredibly grounded, I think that's cool to watch.

 

Playing wise the feeling is more soothing to watch him than wrecking your nerve, I think there is room for both. It's like a critically acclaimed 'slow' movie with beautiful cinematography, it's high brow, it's satisfying to watch but some people will find it boring because not enough happens.

 

I can't help but think of the difference in the Masters this year between Rory and what would have happened with Scheffler. Once Rory avoided the water on 12 with a few shots lead, if that was Scheffler, you could have turned off the TV and not missed anything. Would have been middle of the green on 13 and 15, the rest pars and the green jacket with ease. Rory's instead was soap opera or a thriller, ridiculous plot twists that didn't make any sense and a cliffhanger finish. It was far, far more exciting to watch, but you couldn't recommend it to anyone to actually play like that intentionally.

Edited July 28 by Dave230

[Titleist99]

49 minutes ago, PedronNiall said:

 

People like what they like, but the majority of sports are played up for their intensity. Most aren't watching tennis or football or skiing or anything else for the competitors who are reserved almost 24/7 during competition; golf is pretty heavy on the reserved aspect with the better players, and Scottie takes it to another level. What's the biggest complaint about women's golf? That it's boring to watch, especially as a large number of the better players have become those from countries where reserved behavior is the expectation. Many of them have great energy but they pretty much don't show it during competition and the off-course stuff isn't very heavily promoted on top of the announcers keeping it reserved. If you aren't there for the nuances then golf can still be a recipe for a nice lull into an afternoon nap. 

 

Tiger brought in enough moments of excitement and visible perseverance that the bar was raised. Tiger limped around on a broken leg; Bhatia had to get taped up because he celebrated too hard. I guess it's ironic because one of Scottie's memorable wins involved him going out injured and playing through it, but most of the time when he's winning he's in robot mode, and that just doesn't rise to the level of what the Tour began promoting golf as after Tiger showed up. Golf can certainly wind it back down, and many of the old school souls will appreciate it as much as ever, but it's moneyball now, so they have to bring both the golf fan and the casual sports fan to justify the sponsor dollars, and some are certainly going to feel Scottie falls short of what they're watching for in that regard.

 

The other irony is that Scheffler gets crap when he does let go. A little bag slam or cursing and some act like he's lost the plot. Not sure the guy can win, so one more reason not to fault him for being himself, winning his way, and not making the trophies more than he needs them to be. 

 

Still, part of sports is also the competition, and when Scottie's on fire he pretty much has none. Some felt the same with Tiger, but he gave enough electricity to it all one way or another that most still enjoyed it. Not everyone likes watching Scottie run away with it while literally not even breaking a sweat, and the way he wins has created a larger group that find it boring enough to say so. 

I still contend that most, watch competitive sports for sports excellence/. 

 

No one I know watches any sport based on how reserved the Athletes are.

 

Basketball, football, Nascar, Soccer, Cricket, Hockey, Tennis.... None of these sports is watched based on the participants' personalities. Golf is in a league of its own.

 

* That's what Netflix is for. 😀

 

~PS/ Maybe one day I'll understand. LOL!

Edited July 28 by Titleist99

[Titleist99]

19 minutes ago, Dave230 said:

I think personality-wise Scheffler has grown on people and is pretty interesting, just look at the past month with his press conferences in Portrush and his Happy Gilmore 2 cameos. He seems a pretty chill guy and incredibly grounded, I think that's cool to watch.

 

Playing wise the feeling is more soothing to watch him than wrecking your nerve, I think there is room for both. It's like a critically acclaimed 'slow' movie with beautiful cinematography, it's high brow, it's satisfying to watch but some people will find it boring because not enough happens.

 

I can't help but think of the difference in the Masters this year between Rory and what would have happened with Scheffler. Once Rory avoided the water on 12 with a few shots lead, if that was Scheffler, you could have turned off the TV and not missed anything. Would have been middle of the green on 13 and 15, the rest pars and the green jacket with ease. Rory's instead was soap opera or a thriller, ridiculous plot twists that didn't make any sense and a cliffhanger finish. It was far, far more exciting to watch, but you couldn't recommend it to anyone to actually play like that intentionally.

What other sport do you watch based on the athlete's personality?

 

Honest question. I'm genuinely trying to understand/

[jimb]

His precision and focus is incredible.  I enjoy watching him manage his game and his emotions.

[Carson33]

Watching him play is a joy. His course strategy and hitting pin high to the proper side for the hole location is fantastic. I really enjoy watching him dissect courses.

[wrlwnd]

Society today has too much noise, and too little substance.

 

I voted for substance.

[PedronNiall]

7 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

I still contend that most, watch competitive sports for sports excellence/. 

 

No one I know watches any sport based on how reserved the Athletes are.

 

Basketball, football, Nascar, Soccer, Cricket, Hockey, Tennis.... None of these sports is watched based on the participants' personalities. Golf is in a league of its own.

 

* That's what Netflix is for. 😀

 

~PS/ Maybe one day I'll understand. LOL!

 

Not saying people watch for the personality alone, but it's part of it. McEnroe won a lot, but his passion, over the top or not in some people's eyes, was why he stayed and maybe still is a household name in tennis. Same for the Williams sisters. Right or wrong, if they thought a call was off the crowd knew it, and the desire to win was obvious. Jordan, Hamilton, Bird, Shaq, Barkley, Creamer, Pettersen, Shawn White, Carmello, and on and on. Some of the knowns won all the titles, some won none, but no one doubted they left it all out there on the field, court, track, what have you, and they were anything but stone faced during or at least after the most intense moments. 

 

Tiger was a bit aloof with the media, but when he pulled something off he let the thrill of it show, even if it was mostly for himself in the moment. People are going to find it hard to relate to training your whole life for something and carrying it off when it counts most only to keep the same stolid look you had for every run-of-the-mill shot prior. No worries, that's who Scottie is, but that's not what most sports fans tune in to see. You really think if Jordan only showed any emotion once per game he would have had all the fans he gained? You could see when he was pissed about hard fouls and missed picks or passes, and you could see when he loved the way a play came together even in some of the biggest, most intense moments of his career, and those things brought the audience into it with him. 

 

If the emotion didn't matter broadcasts in every sport wouldn't zoom in on players' expressions or run back slo-mo of them letting it out one way or another. Even DP World and Sky coverage of any tour do it, despite the average UK or EU golf fan being more reserved than those from the U.S., though the futbol fans who dip their toes in certainly aren't on the demure side. 

 

Scottie just does very little for anyone who's not there strictly to appreciate the golf rather than to see something more universally recognized as a great exhibition of athletic ability. He looks like he's not even trying at times, so unless you know and love the game you couldn't really be blamed for thinking it's no big deal when he pulls off some of his biggest shots. Even if you love golf you might not find his detachment thrilling; different strokes and all that. 

[Titleist99]

9 hours ago, PedronNiall said:

 

Not saying people watch for the personality alone, but it's part of it. McEnroe won a lot, but his passion, over the top or not in some people's eyes, was why he stayed and maybe still is a household name in tennis. Same for the Williams sisters. Right or wrong, if they thought a call was off the crowd knew it, and the desire to win was obvious. Jordan, Hamilton, Bird, Shaq, Barkley, Creamer, Pettersen, Shawn White, Carmello, and on and on. Some of the knowns won all the titles, some won none, but no one doubted they left it all out there on the field, court, track, what have you, and they were anything but stone faced during or at least after the most intense moments. 

 

Tiger was a bit aloof with the media, but when he pulled something off he let the thrill of it show, even if it was mostly for himself in the moment. People are going to find it hard to relate to training your whole life for something and carrying it off when it counts most only to keep the same stolid look you had for every run-of-the-mill shot prior. No worries, that's who Scottie is, but that's not what most sports fans tune in to see. You really think if Jordan only showed any emotion once per game he would have had all the fans he gained? You could see when he was pissed about hard fouls and missed picks or passes, and you could see when he loved the way a play came together even in some of the biggest, most intense moments of his career, and those things brought the audience into it with him. 

 

If the emotion didn't matter broadcasts in every sport wouldn't zoom in on players' expressions or run back slo-mo of them letting it out one way or another. Even DP World and Sky coverage of any tour do it, despite the average UK or EU golf fan being more reserved than those from the U.S., though the futbol fans who dip their toes in certainly aren't on the demure side. 

 

Scottie just does very little for anyone who's not there strictly to appreciate the golf rather than to see something more universally recognized as a great exhibition of athletic ability. He looks like he's not even trying at times, so unless you know and love the game you couldn't really be blamed for thinking it's no big deal when he pulls off some of his biggest shots. Even if you love golf you might not find his detachment thrilling; different strokes and all that. 

 

Maybe you're right. I just don't remember Jack or Arnie being anything but reserved and classy, yet they carried the sport for years.

 

As far as Scheffler is concerned, if anyone doesn't find a touring pro playing at a +10, then that's on them. 😀

[Dave230]

17 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

What other sport do you watch based on the athlete's personality?

 

Honest question. I'm genuinely trying to understand/

You don’t watch any sport entirely because of someone’s personality but if you’re a casual fan and 50-50 on turning something on in the evening, whoever is involved makes a difference. Even as a golf fan if it’s some standard PGA Tour event and let’s say Cantlay beating Morikawa with 5 holes to go (no disrespect) versus Fleetwood is beating Spieth with 5 holes to go, I’m more likely to stick on the latter.

[TiScape]

Still a tremendous talent… Still as exciting as a vanilla soft serve at my local Foster’s Freeze 🍦 

[Obee]

17 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

What other sport do you watch based on the athlete's personality?

 

Honest question. I'm genuinely trying to understand/

No you're not. 
 

It's not that hard. I refuse to believe you can't get this. 
 

Personality is PART of what we enjoy. For some of us, the personality piece is MORE important than it is for others. 
 

For YOU (evidently) it plays NO ROLE. 

 

Come on, dude.