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44 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

 

Maybe you're right. I just don't remember Jack or Arnie being anything but reserved and classy, yet they carried the sport for years.

 

As far as Scheffler is concerned, if anyone doesn't find a touring pro playing at a +10, then that's on them. 😀


Do you think Jack and Arnie went about their business in the same way? Do you think their swings were simliar? Their facial expressions? Their ... personalities? Cuz ... they weren't. 

Do you think people thought that Jack and Arnie were "equally exciting" to watch play with no distinction between how people viewed them?

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18 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

I still contend that most, watch competitive sports for sports excellence/. 

 

No one I know watches any sport based on how reserved the Athletes are.

 

Basketball, football, Nascar, Soccer, Cricket, Hockey, Tennis.... None of these sports is watched based on the participants' personalities. Golf is in a league of its own.

 

* That's what Netflix is for. 😀

 

~PS/ Maybe one day I'll understand. LOL!


The sports themselves are generally not watched based on the participants' personalities. However people's "favorite players" are almost universally (partially) based on their personalities.

This. Is. Not. Hard.

People find different things "exciting" or "attractive" or "boring" or (insert flippin' adjective here). Why does this surprise you?

Mark Fydrich (not boring)
Don Sutton (boring)

George Foster (boring) and one of my favorite players due to what he brought to the Big Red Machine
Ricky Henderson (not boring)

Bjorn Borg (boring)
John McEnroe (not boring)
Ilie Nastase (not boring)

Need I go on?

 

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1 hour ago, Titleist99 said:

 

Maybe you're right. I just don't remember Jack or Arnie being anything but reserved and classy, yet they carried the sport for years.

 

As far as Scheffler is concerned, if anyone doesn't find a touring pro playing at a +10, then that's on them. 😀

 

The difference in how Jack & Arnie interacted and were received in general are talking points in a number of discussions where they come up. There's a reason Arnie had his Army and Jack didn't really become appreciated until after he was done winning all his Majors, as people began to realize they'd never see the like again in their lifetimes regardless of how reserved he was while doing it. Massive difference between Arnie, Trevino, Watson, and a few others vs Jack in terms of how crowds took to them in their prime.

 

You can just look at pictures of them together and see that they had different personalities, even if you'd never seen a single reel, interview, match, or moment of with them live.

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Obee said:


The sports themselves are generally not watched based on the participants' personalities. However people's "favorite players" are almost universally (partially) based on their personalities.

This. Is. Not. Hard.

People find different things "exciting" or "attractive" or "boring" or (insert flippin' adjective here). Why does this surprise you?

Mark Fydrich (not boring)
Don Sutton (boring)

George Foster (boring) and one of my favorite players due to what he brought to the Big Red Machine
Ricky Henderson (not boring)

Bjorn Borg (boring)
John McEnroe (not boring)
Ilie Nastase (not boring)

Need I go on?

 

"This. Is. Not. Hard."

 

LOL!  Not hard for you, but I find your list totally ridiculous.

 

I can safely say that I've never had a sports argument regarding any athlete being boring or exciting based on antics on the course. (except for WRX)😂

 

But if an athlete's antics and demeanor help your excitement level.....

 

Have at it!

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7 minutes ago, PedronNiall said:

 

The difference in how Jack & Arnie interacted and were received in general are talking points in a number of discussions where they come up. There's a reason Arnie had his Army and Jack didn't really become appreciated until after he was done winning all his Majors, as people began to realize they'd never see the like again in their lifetimes regardless of how reserved he was while doing it. Massive difference between Arnie, Trevino, Watson, and a few others vs Jack in terms of how crowds took to them in their prime.

 

You can just look at pictures of them together and see that they had different personalities, even if you'd never seen a single reel, interview, match, or moment of with them live.

 

 

 

 

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Are you saying that Scheffler and Schaufele should hug more?🤣

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29 minutes ago, PedronNiall said:

 

The difference in how Jack & Arnie interacted and were received in general are talking points in a number of discussions where they come up. There's a reason Arnie had his Army and Jack didn't really become appreciated until after he was done winning all his Majors, as people began to realize they'd never see the like again in their lifetimes regardless of how reserved he was while doing it. Massive difference between Arnie, Trevino, Watson, and a few others vs Jack in terms of how crowds took to them in their prime.

 

You can just look at pictures of them together and see that they had different personalities, even if you'd never seen a single reel, interview, match, or moment of with them live.

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

But if an athlete's antics and demeanor help your excitement level.....

 

Have at it!


They most certainly do. Me and millions of others.

And that's what this is about: personal preference.

I'm done here (with you). As Andrew Dufresne said to Warden Norton: "How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate"?

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1 minute ago, Obee said:


They most certainly do. Me and millions of others.

And that's what this is about: personal preference.

I'm done here (with you). As Andrew Dufresne said to Warden Norton: "How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate"?

Do you usually act this way with people who don't share your view?

 

I understand why you feel the way you do; I just don't agree with it.

 

Different strokes for different folks.

 

You happen to find a guy playing like a Plus 10 boring, and I find golf excellence by a Professional must-see TV.

 

No worries.

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26 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

Do you usually act this way with people who don't share your view?

 

I understand why you feel the way you do; I just don't agree with it.

 

Different strokes for different folks.

 

You happen to find a guy playing like a Plus 10 boring, and I find golf excellence by a Professional must-see TV.

 

No worries.

An ‘agree to disagree’?! 


This attitude woulda saved us all from like 57  pages of the rollback 2.0 thread!! 😂 

 

*jus kidding T99. I know I coulda easily skipped it/just kept scrolling 😇

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6 hours ago, Dave230 said:

You don’t watch any sport entirely because of someone’s personality but if you’re a casual fan and 50-50 on turning something on in the evening, whoever is involved makes a difference. Even as a golf fan if it’s some standard PGA Tour event and let’s say Cantlay beating Morikawa with 5 holes to go (no disrespect) versus Fleetwood is beating Spieth with 5 holes to go, I’m more likely to stick on the latter.

Nah, it's been proven that that's not true. The biggest ratings have come from drama and competitiveness, coming down the back nine on Sunday pulls the biggest audiences regardless of who it is.

 

*Jon Rahm received 69K viewers while leading in his own championship bid.

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I think part of the problem is that the word “boring” has such a negative connotation in our culture that it’s hard for some to describe the best golfer in the world with that negative of a word.

Most who would use the word boring to describe SS would probably say they don’t mean it to be that negative, but it probably does come across that way to a lot of people.  

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16 hours ago, Obee said:


They most certainly do. Me and millions of others.

And that's what this is about: personal preference.

I'm done here (with you). As Andrew Dufresne said to Warden Norton: "How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate"?

 

Definitely at the end of the day it is personal preference.

 

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I enjoy watching Scottie pick a course apart, but one thing I've realized is after he wins I can hardly remember any of the shots he's hit or any big putts he's holed. The only actual shots of his I remember is the chip in from the Masters in 2022 on the 3rd hole and the hole out on 4 at TPC Sawgrass last year.  The vast majority of his wins are either he started Sunday with a big lead and cruised or it gets tight for maybe 30 mins on the front nine and then he makes a couple birdies and it's over. The average margin victory in his majors is 4 shots and every back 9 is a carbon copy of the other. 

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7 minutes ago, Mr.Cleeks said:

I enjoy watching Scottie pick a course apart, but one thing I've realized is after he wins I can hardly remember any of the shots he's hit or any big putts he's holed. The only actual shots of his I remember is the chip in from the Masters in 2022 on the 3rd hole and the hole out on 4 at TPC Sawgrass last year.  The vast majority of his wins are either he started Sunday with a big lead and cruised or it gets tight for maybe 30 mins on the front nine and then he makes a couple birdies and it's over. The average margin victory in his majors is 4 shots and every back 9 is a carbon copy of the other. 

I think that is because he is such a methodical golfer that never hits it “off the moon” and therefore, never has to hit a heroic shot to recover. It is just fairways and then 20’ on the proper side of the hole. He then makes 30-50% of those 20’ putts and wins by many.

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1 hour ago, Carson33 said:

I think that is because he is such a methodical golfer that never hits it “off the moon” and therefore, never has to hit a heroic shot to recover. It is just fairways and then 20’ on the proper side of the hole. He then makes 30-50% of those 20’ putts and wins by many.

That's Scottie Scheffler in a nutshell. The minute he starts doing something different, his career is over. 🤣

 

99% of all golfers would love to have that consistency for just a week.

The other 1% that thinks it's boring is right here on WRX. 🤣 (I kid)

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2 hours ago, Carson33 said:

I think that is because he is such a methodical golfer that never hits it “off the moon” and therefore, never has to hit a heroic shot to recover. It is just fairways and then 20’ on the proper side of the hole. He then makes 30-50% of those 20’ putts and wins by many.


 

Ya that’s the catch-22 for him. Hus game is so good it’s boring. 
 

But the other aspect of “exciting” golf is when a guy becomes “da man” and the expectations are sky high and they deliver big time

 

Thats what TW did. And once he was the top dog it wasn’t just the exciting/recovery shots he hit, people got psyched to see him just put the hammer down and win 

 

Personally, SS gets more intriguing to watch now since he’s the undisputed best and everybody wants to beat him. If he has another big year, especially majors, I think there will be a lot more hype

 

and then it keeps multiplying as the stakes go up. 
 

 

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Late to this thread. Scottie is not boring and neither was Jack. But I think the reason the topic comes up at all is because as viewers what we want from athletes is to believe that they are driven to succeed/win, and that they desperately want & need the victories. That's where the 'drama' comes from, i.e., the highs and lows in pursuit of what's most important to them. In other words, we want to feel that *they* deeply care about and are wholly invested in the results, so that we too can then care with them; we certainly don't want to sense that we have *more* invested in the outcome than they do. We all knew that Tiger was driven to win in that way, as was Jordan, and Jimmy Connors etc -- that's why they were exciting to watch. Now, I think that it's certain that Scottie cares too (as Jack did), or else there is no way he/they could win so much; and yet, Scottie -- like Jack -- seems so well adjusted, so well-rounded, so sane and balanced and with a healthy perspective on themselves and on life (with both of them nurturing wife and family and faith etc.) that it can appear that they don't *need* to win in order to be happy, i.e., that their sense of identity and of self-worth and of well-being is not totally wrapped up in the results they achieve....in short, that it's *not* the most important thing in the world for then. And I think that's a great quality to have in life and it also helps/helped them win so often -- but it's not exactly 'dramatic'. 

 

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3 hours ago, Carson33 said:

I think that is because he is such a methodical golfer that never hits it “off the moon” and therefore, never has to hit a heroic shot to recover. It is just fairways and then 20’ on the proper side of the hole. He then makes 30-50% of those 20’ putts and wins by many.

I said this in another thread but if Scottie was in the position Rory was in at Augusta this year going into the back 9, he would've won by 4-5 shots. I don't see Scottie dumping a 90 yard wedge shot in Ray's Creek on 13 and I don't see him blocking 130 yard wedge shot 10 yards right of his target on 18. If Scottie even has a 1 shot lead going into Sunday, I'm confident he'll win just purely based off his course management and his iron game.

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On 7/27/2025 at 7:34 AM, Obee said:

 

Bring it. This is me a few years ago...

 

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People keep saying his “game” is boring as a compliment.

 

okay, but are you going to ignore that his personality is also boring?

 

the guy shows zero emotion. HE is boring. He confesses that all he does is enjoy going to Chipotle.

 

stop saying it’s just his game.

 

it’s okay that he is boring. But he is. 

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19 minutes ago, straightshot7 said:

People keep saying his “game” is boring as a compliment.

 

okay, but are you going to ignore that his personality is also boring?

 

the guy shows zero emotion. HE is boring. He confesses that all he does is enjoy going to Chipotle.

 

stop saying it’s just his game.

 

it’s okay that he is boring. But he is. 

Do any of us really know him? He seems to have quite a few friends on tour they must like boring?

 

As far as on course demeanor…..what do you need? A few club tosses?…..f word tossed about?…..trashed locker room?……or just more fist pumps?  We all should find the on course demeanor that suits our game best and get on with it. For some pros that will mean fist pumps and yells to get the fans pumped up. For others that will be a steady head and reduce the amount of highs and lows and just play the game brilliantly…line Scheffler.

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Most folks expected Tiger to win every time he teed it up (cough cough Curtis Strange) and most folks feel the same about Scotty.  That is exciting imo.  Tiger couldn't sell Buicks in his prime but I bet Scottie could.  😁

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      Thriston Lawrence - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Darius Van Driel - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Grant Forrest - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jordan Gumberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nacho Elvira - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Romain Langasque - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Dan Bradbury - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Yannik Paul - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Ashun Wu - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Alex Del Rey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made gamer - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made putter (back-up??) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      New TaylorMade P-UDI (Stinger Squadron cover) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Rory's custom Joe Powell (Career Slam) persimmon driver & cover - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Tommy Fleetwood's son Mo's TM putter - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2025 John Deere Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #1
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Carson Young - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Anders Albertson - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Jay Giannetto - Iowa PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      John Pak - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Brendan Valdes - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cristobal del Solar - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Dylan Frittelli - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Justin Lowers new Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Bettinardi new Core Carbon putters - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter covers - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
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