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Tour Balls - “Heavy” vs “Light” (The Search)


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I’m am on the search for the right ball and I hope that this may help some others out there.

 

My game specifically could use a lower flight and higher spin. I also like the feel of a ball that feels “lighter” and “hotter” vs balls with that “dead” or “heavy”.

 

I know this can be difficult because more spin equals higher flight in most cases. If I really want to flight it down I can, but I would love a bit of a lower flight with the wedges and irons on my stock swings into greens.

 

Here’s where I’m at and what I’ve tried.

 

Previous version ProV1 - Decent flight but needed some spin with the irons. Feel is OK, not too heavy.

2025 ProV1X - Good performance, but too high. Also felt “heavy”.

Vice Pro Plus - Really enjoy this ball. Great spin and great feel, but feel like the flight is a bit high. It’s doable.

 

Question now is where do you guys think I should look? I really want something with that “lighter” feel, a bit lower launching and a bit higher spin with wedges and irons. I’m ready to buy some sleeves and give some new balls a try.

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New Chrome Tour and AVX. 

 

I played both.  Eventually, neither was for me.  I ended up switching out both those balls for the new ProV1.  Just a thought, I get plenty of distance and spin out of it.  You might consider, for more spin, trying hitting the ball harder with more AoA.

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1 minute ago, Pepperturbo said:

New Chrome Tour and AVX. 

 

I played both.  Eventually, neither was for me.  I ended up switching out both those balls for the new ProV1.  Just a thought, I get plenty of distance and spin out of it.  You might consider, for more spin, trying hitting the ball harder with more AoA.

No need for more distance really. I hit it plenty hard. I am naturally more flippy at impact which is some of the issue, but I play well and I can flight it down and put spin on it if I need to, I am looking more for something to help with my stock shots.

 

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3 minutes ago, LUMA said:

No need for more distance really. I hit it plenty hard. I am naturally more flippy at impact which is some of the issue, but I play well and I can flight it down and put spin on it if I need to, I am looking more for something to help with my stock shots.

If you find something that answers the questions for stock shots, I look forward to hearing what ball does that, and handles nonstock.  I've always found it easier to find a ball for my stock shots, than finding one that handles my NON-stock shots.

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7 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

If you find something that answers the questions for stock shots, I look forward to hearing what ball does that, and handles nonstock.  I've always found it easier to find a ball for my stock shots, than finding one that handles my NON-stock shots.

Yeah, I’m looking for it lol. The only time I try to flight it down is if there a big head wind or I want a ton of spin, or I need to get over a tree and I really launch it.

 

I’m contemplating trying the T150 and going with a spinier ball in the near future. Really looking for that ball that has that lighter feel tho…

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2 minutes ago, LUMA said:

Yeah, I’m looking for it lol. The only time I try to flight it down is if there a big head wind or I want a ton of spin, or I need to get over a tree and I really launch it.

 

I’m contemplating trying the T150 and going with a spinier ball in the near future.

Good luck with T150.  Nice-looking club. 

 

I had T150 (4i-PW) for many months before sending them to a better home.  I didn't gain anything other than gapping, trajectory and spin issues, so I pulled out my T100, and had them bent 1* strong.  Now, they are almost as far as T150 without gapping, trajectory and spin challenges.  Just had new PX Red 6.0 shafts installed, so far, I am a happy camper.

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11 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

Good luck with T150.  Nice-looking club. 

 

I had T150 (4i-PW) for many months before sending them to a better home.  I didn't gain anything other than gapping, trajectory and spin issues, so I pulled out my T100, and had them bent 1* strong.  Now, they are almost as far as T150 without gapping, trajectory and spin challenges.  Just had new PX Red 6.0 shafts installed, so far, I am a happy camper.

I had my 100’s 1 deg strong as well, but didn’t experiment with balls much. Maybe I’ll go back to a strong setup and try out some balls. I’m really enjoying the Vice Pro Plus, but the flight is just a tad higher than I like and sometimes I feel that I don’t trust the performance of every ball. Maybe that’s in my head, but it’s something I think about when using a “budget” ball.

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Been doing a bit of research and I’m going to give Tour B XS a try. From what I’m reading, it feels lighter off the face vs ProV1, spins more, and has a bit lower launch.

 

Anybody try the new B XS over the ProV1? I’ll also report back after I have a chance to play it. I remember years ago I found a Tour B ball and played it for 3 holes before I lost it in the greenside rough and it was an absolute delight to play. I can’t remember if it was B XS or B RXS, but man it felt nice.

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3 hours ago, CWT33 said:

New Srixon family : diamond is a good one

Im going to grab a sleeve of those as well.

 

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Try the Chrome Tour, easily my fav ball and if it isn’t spinning enough for you try the chrome tour x. These balls do not feel heavy at all, i wouldn’t say they feel light either. 

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Grabbed some Diamonds and Tour B XS’s. Going to give them a shot and will report back once I can get out for 9 holes.

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Titleist TSi2 19 deg Hybrid / PX Hazardous Smoke Black RDX
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On 6/20/2025 at 5:22 AM, LUMA said:

Grabbed some Diamonds and Tour B XS’s. Going to give them a shot and will report back once I can get out for 9 holes.

How did these work for you?

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8 hours ago, Arlin964 said:

How did these work for you?

Still haven’t played a round yet, I’ve only had time for a few evening range sessions with some chipping and putting but planning to get out this week for at least 9. I am going to be trying the Tour B XS and the Z Star Diamond. The Diamond may be what I’m looking for so we will see. In the past the Z Stars have had that “dead” or “heavy” feeling, but I hear it’s fixed now. That was like 12 years ago tho…

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Still need a bit more testing, but man, the Z-Star Diamond is a great ball. I was only able to play 3 holes tonight and it was wet after a storm so spin and launch was affected, but I really enjoyed the feel of the ball and it performed awesome.

 

I think the Diamond may be my new ball…

 

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Titleist 915 F 15 deg / Diamana 70
Titleist TSi2 19 deg Hybrid / PX Hazardous Smoke Black RDX
Titleist T100 / Project X 6.0

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