Cobra 3DP Additions to the lineup.

[TheMoneyShot]

Still no news on additional releases👎

[Morry]

Anyone actually have a tangible lead on launch timing?

anxious

dying to see what the come with - spin, softness..etc

 

[DonOmar]

Good question. Unfortunately, Cobra doesn't seem to know, or at least wants to share, what their release cadence is. Their non-Darkspeed release schedule is unusual.

 

King Tec has a longer release cycle and does not release all product types at the same time (irons have different timing than hybrids).

 

3DP irons start as a limited proto then followed quickly with a more public release.

 

Mini Driver - this has been tour seeded for a long time with no word. 

 

The 3D MB tour, looked like a one-off pga tour custom, but then we get word/rumor these will launch to the public. Now the July launch rumors have come and gone. At this point, if there is a silent drop on any random day between now and January, none of us would be surprised.

 

I'm not necessarily complaining about any of it, because there are respectable reasons for each scenario and Cobra is not misleading us. They are just quiet. Which has me puzzled about all of it. 

[smdunlop]

a Cobra rep confirmed with me last week that they are "expanding" their 3DP lineup but couldn't give me an actual timeline. He did say it would be worth waiting a bit to get a fitting and see what they release.

[QuigleyDU]

On 7/19/2025 at 11:11 PM, DonOmar said:

 

Good question. Unfortunately, Cobra doesn't seem to know, or at least wants to share, what their release cadence is. Their non-Darkspeed release schedule is unusual.

 

King Tec has a longer release cycle and does not release all product types at the same time (irons have different timing than hybrids).

 

3DP irons start as a limited proto then followed quickly with a more public release.

 

Mini Driver - this has been tour seeded for a long time with no word. 

 

The 3D MB tour, looked like a one-off pga tour custom, but then we get word/rumor these will launch to the public. Now the July launch rumors have come and gone. At this point, if there is a silent drop on any random day between now and January, none of us would be surprised.

 

I'm not necessarily complaining about any of it, because there are respectable reasons for each scenario and Cobra is not misleading us. They are just quiet. Which has me puzzled about all of it. 

Yagley leaving Cobra could have something to do with all of this. 

[NNJ]

4 hours ago, smdunlop said:

a Cobra rep confirmed with me last week that they are "expanding" their 3DP lineup but couldn't give me an actual timeline. He did say it would be worth waiting a bit to get a fitting and see what they release.

I feel like we will eventually see a 3D printed driverhead with the marketing speak that it has allowed them to print the crown, sole, and face to optimize weight placement to maximize distance and forgiveness in a way that traditional manufacturing, even with ai-optimization, cannot do 

 

I will 100% believe the hype 

[StiffShaft]

I bought an r7 mini.  Can’t wait forever

[TheMoneyShot]

8 hours ago, smdunlop said:

a Cobra rep confirmed with me last week that they are "expanding" their 3DP lineup but couldn't give me an actual timeline. He did say it would be worth waiting a bit to get a fitting and see what they release.

Maybe some 3DP wedges? 

[Morry]

this Yagley thing is interesting.....

 

where are my new King Tour 26's?

 

 

[Fairways_and_Greens]

Yagley went to Revelyst… from their press release:

 

Revelyst Inc. is a collective of world-class maker brands that design and manufacture performance gear and precision technologies. Our category-defining brands leverage meticulous craftsmanship and cross-collaboration to pursue new innovations that redefine what is humanly possible in the outdoors. Portfolio brands include Foresight Sports, Bushnell Golf, Fox, Bell, Giro, CamelBak, Bushnell, Simms Fishing and more.

 

Are they starting a club company?

[Lucas6688]

17 minutes ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

 

Revelyst Inc. is a collective of world-class maker brands that design and manufacture performance gear and precision technologies. Our category-defining brands leverage meticulous craftsmanship and cross-collaboration to pursue new innovations that redefine what is humanly possible in the outdoors. Portfolio brands include Foresight Sports, B

Written by chat GPT. 

[TheFrozenChef]

I mean foresight has so much data on all the pros and tons of ams. Wouldn't be surprised if they're doing some sort of club release that's got ai+3d printing. 

[Hoyoymac]

Looking forward to a smaller 3DP iron with a thinner top line, thinner sole and more traditional lofts.

 

My stock shot is a draw and I could benefit from a version of these irons that would produce more launch and spin than the current 3DP Tour irons.

[Morry]

On 7/25/2025 at 4:30 PM, Hoyoymac said:

Looking forward to a smaller 3DP iron with a thinner top line, thinner sole and more traditional lofts.

 

My stock shot is a draw and I could benefit from a version of these irons that would produce more launch and spin than the current 3DP Tour irons.

agree

the 3DP's now 'act' a little too much like a hollow body for me  

spin wise I mean - (500-750) lower - all irons 

would Love to see a fix to that, smaller, less offset maybe ...:)

 

[StillCantPutt]

I find it extremely odd that nobody has any concrete evidence that these irons are even being released. If they were in fact coming, someone would know something.

[Morry]

22 hours ago, StillCantPutt said:

I find it extremely odd that nobody has any concrete evidence that these irons are even being released. If they were in fact coming, someone would know something.

especially since the ones available now are only for higher spin swings that are looking for forgiveness in a tour shape and don't mind the price tag

but, that's not everyone 

 

need more spin, even less offset, pre-worn leading edge, classic shaping 

Cobra can own the category - no matter how big it is, it Matters for cache and economics 

 

fingers crossed

oh, I need left-hand too...thanks !

 

 

[TheOverratedPhotog]

22 hours ago, Morry said:

especially since the ones available now are only for higher spin swings that are looking for forgiveness in a tour shape and don't mind the price tag

but, that's not everyone 

 

need more spin, even less offset, pre-worn leading edge, classic shaping 

Cobra can own the category - no matter how big it is, it Matters for cache and economics 

 

fingers crossed

oh, I need left-hand too...thanks !

 

 

I’m confused. Why do you say the ones now are for higher spin swings?
 

With a lot of modern clubs, higher spin isn’t as important as it once was. That’s why many modern clubs have moved away from high spin. Stopping power on a green is dictated by both spin and approach angle so provided your approach angle exceeds 45 degrees, the spin required isn’t as high. 

 

[Morry]

2 minutes ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

I’m confused. Why do you say the ones now are for higher spin swings?
 

With a lot of modern clubs, higher spin isn’t as important as it once was. That’s why many modern clubs have moved away from high spin. Stopping power on a green is dictated by both spin and approach angle so provided your approach angle exceeds 45 degrees, the spin required isn’t as high. 

 

Well versed in club technology.....doesn't mean spin still isn't More important for some vs others 

regardless of the vaunted landing angle and launch 

issue for those people is how the spin stabilizes the ball flight so it can hit the green.....landing angle won't matter when it misses 

 

I sure Hope the new ones have been spin properties 

the 3DP are more like P790 spin lol 

I take it you haven't tried them yet 

YMMV

 

 

[TheOverratedPhotog]

1 hour ago, Morry said:

Well versed in club technology.....doesn't mean spin still isn't More important for some vs others 

regardless of the vaunted landing angle and launch 

issue for those people is how the spin stabilizes the ball flight so it can hit the green.....landing angle won't matter when it misses 

 

I sure Hope the new ones have been spin properties 

the 3DP are more like P790 spin lol 

I take it you haven't tried them yet 

YMMV

 

 

 

I have the original Limit3D and I have the 3DP's in 3I and GW. I've never had issues with needing spin stabilising flight but I hit the ball pretty straight.

 

That said, I will say that generally the tungsten in the modern heads allows for a slightly straighter ball flight, as the weight isn't as centrally located, so you have less of an impact with off centre hits. With the 3DP as an example, there is tungsten in the hosel which helps reduce the club face twisting on off centre hits. 

 

Let me be clear, not saying you are wrong. I'm just saying you can't look at single elements (like spin) of a club in isolation. 

[Pnwpingi210]

1 minute ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

 

I have the original Limit3D and I have the 3DP's in 3I and GW. I've never had issues with needing spin stabilising flight but I hit the ball pretty straight.

 

That said, I will say that generally the tungsten in the modern heads allows for a slightly straighter ball flight, as the weight isn't as centrally located, so you have less of an impact with off centre hits. With the 3DP as an example, there is tungsten in the hosel which helps reduce the club face twisting on off centre hits. 

 

Let me be clear, not saying you are wrong. I'm just saying you can't look at single elements (like spin) of a club in isolation. 

They produce similar launch, ballspeed and spin dynamics like the og 2017 or 19 p790s that everyone called rocket launchers.  They fly a littler higher than those 790s so that helps them.

 

the new 790 has corrected this and I suspect cobra will too.

 

the cobras are more forgiving

[Morry]

39 minutes ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

 

I have the original Limit3D and I have the 3DP's in 3I and GW. I've never had issues with needing spin stabilising flight but I hit the ball pretty straight.

 

That said, I will say that generally the tungsten in the modern heads allows for a slightly straighter ball flight, as the weight isn't as centrally located, so you have less of an impact with off centre hits. With the 3DP as an example, there is tungsten in the hosel which helps reduce the club face twisting on off centre hits. 

 

Let me be clear, not saying you are wrong. I'm just saying you can't look at single elements (like spin) of a club in isolation. 

LOL

I hear ya...but "I' can, since that is the most important attribute that I need 

 

there are many like me - many like you 

these clubs spin like they are hollow body irons ...'improved' versions or not 

if they progress to more of a mb, I 'suspect' the target audience will be interested in spin as well as part of the package 

 

anyway - happy you like - Enjoy!

I will stay happily in my King Tours for now 

 

 

[TheOverratedPhotog]

3 hours ago, Morry said:

LOL

I hear ya...but "I' can, since that is the most important attribute that I need 

 

there are many like me - many like you 

these clubs spin like they are hollow body irons ...'improved' versions or not 

if they progress to more of a mb, I 'suspect' the target audience will be interested in spin as well as part of the package 

 

anyway - happy you like - Enjoy!

I will stay happily in my King Tours for now 

 

 

The challenge is what advantage does the 3DP give with an mb? The key difference for the sponsored players if they can ask for a minor mod to the shape and cobra can generate the club within two weeks, but 3-D printing an MB won’t really offer much in the line of performance improvements. The reason it gives performance improvements with the current 3DP tour is the mesh design allow them to produce a lighter iron, and then doing so they can put in more tungsten, hence they make a forgiving club without increasing the shape of the club or weight. It’s the tungsten that makes the lower centre of gravity, which in turn means a higher launch and having to deloft the club to meet the required launch window. When you deloft the club, you decrease spin. 
 

So the only way to get a 3DP tour with more spin, is to bend it a few degrees weaker, which will give you a much higher launch, but it would probably still travel the same distance as an MB. The alternatives are using high spin balls and shafts but there is a limit. 

[Pnwpingi210]

6 minutes ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

The challenge is what advantage does the 3DP give with an mb? The key difference for the sponsored players if they can ask for a minor mod to the shape and cobra can generate the club within two weeks, but 3-D printing an MB won’t really offer much in the line of performance improvements. The reason it gives performance improvements with the current 3DP tour is the mesh design allow them to produce a lighter iron, and then doing so they can put in more tungsten, hence they make a forgiving club without increasing the shape of the club or weight. It’s the tungsten that makes the lower centre of gravity, which in turn means a higher launch and having to deloft the club to meet the required launch window. When you deloft the club, you decrease spin. 
 

So the only way to get a 3DP tour with more spin, is to bend it a few degrees weaker, which will give you a much higher launch, but it would probably still travel the same distance as an MB. The alternatives are using high spin balls and shafts but there is a limit. 

You could move the cg higher in the 3dp tour with a more traditional loft (33 degree 7 iron) and achieve something that is just consistent and stable across the face, that produces less total ballspeed and more spin. Possibly thicken the face to reduce the ballspeed as well if needed.  It’s just not going to fly as far (which some players don’t want or need)

 

 

 

[TheOverratedPhotog]

2 hours ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

You could move the cg higher in the 3dp tour with a more traditional loft (33 degree 7 iron) and achieve something that is just consistent and stable across the face, that produces less total ballspeed and more spin. Possibly thicken the face to reduce the ballspeed as well if needed.  It’s just not going to fly as far (which some players don’t want or need)

 

 

 

 

Agree, but you can create a higher CG without having to 3DP print an iron or using tungsten. The whole benefit of the 3DP was the weight saving allowing them to put more tungsten in a smaller iron. The other benefit was getting the feel of a forged iron because the mesh feels and sounds solid, rather than the clacky sound you get from hollow back irons.

 

I guess we're hypothesising but if they could do it on a blade for a pro, or if it would add value, I am guessing they would have tried it already. 

 

[PedronNiall]

18 minutes ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

 

Agree, but you can create a higher CG without having to 3DP print an iron or using tungsten. The whole benefit of the 3DP was the weight saving allowing them to put more tungsten in a smaller iron. The other benefit was getting the feel of a forged iron because the mesh feels and sounds solid, rather than the clacky sound you get from hollow back irons.

 

I guess we're hypothesising but if they could do it on a blade for a pro, or if it would add value, I am guessing they would have tried it already. 

 

 

A number of modern blades use tungsten and some newer models even use a ceramic composite. More than possible to still save weight and integrate forgiving structures and more forgiving distribution in a blade with the fine control printing offers. Also no telling what could be done above the sweet spot to improve consistency or forgiveness without loosing feel and overall playability. 

 

We shall see. 

[Morry]

6 hours ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

The challenge is what advantage does the 3DP give with an mb? The key difference for the sponsored players if they can ask for a minor mod to the shape and cobra can generate the club within two weeks, but 3-D printing an MB won’t really offer much in the line of performance improvements. The reason it gives performance improvements with the current 3DP tour is the mesh design allow them to produce a lighter iron, and then doing so they can put in more tungsten, hence they make a forgiving club without increasing the shape of the club or weight. It’s the tungsten that makes the lower centre of gravity, which in turn means a higher launch and having to deloft the club to meet the required launch window. When you deloft the club, you decrease spin. 
 

So the only way to get a 3DP tour with more spin, is to bend it a few degrees weaker, which will give you a much higher launch, but it would probably still travel the same distance as an MB. The alternatives are using high spin balls and shafts but there is a limit. 

Recognize all this 

and I did bend them 2* weak across the board 

and I use a high spin ball 

shafts have a different effect, but I get your point 

 

mine is I did it and they don't work for me - I do that to all my irons, so the difference doesn't impact much 

 

the conceptual advantages of 3DP can effectively be applied to a mb in my opinion 

I would be shocked if we didn't see one soon 

cheers

 

[JoeFrigo]

On 7/21/2025 at 6:32 PM, TheMoneyShot said:

Maybe some 3DP wedges? 

youll see 3D wedges before MB irons

[TheMoneyShot]

5 minutes ago, JoeFrigo said:

youll see 3D wedges before MB irons

Who knows🤷

[CapeCodGolfer]

20 hours ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

 

Agree, but you can create a higher CG without having to 3DP print an iron or using tungsten. The whole benefit of the 3DP was the weight saving allowing them to put more tungsten in a smaller iron. The other benefit was getting the feel of a forged iron because the mesh feels and sounds solid, rather than the clacky sound you get from hollow back irons.

 

I guess we're hypothesising but if they could do it on a blade for a pro, or if it would add value, I am guessing they would have tried it already. 

 

You could still have heel/toe tungsten weights but higher instead of lower to get very high MOI with a higher CG.  or elongated vertically etc etc.  high moi weighting and vertical CG location could be mutually independent