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[Dutch1008]

15 hours ago, Chanceman said:

He’s a dour uninspiring character with a narrow view of the world.

 

Yeah, a loving husband and fully engaged father who just so happens to be greatest golfer the world has seen for 15 years, totally uninspiring. A man who actually understands that his job is not his singular purpose in life. Total loser. It'd be way cooler if he were getting drunk at Hooters and banging escorts by the dozen. Maybe whining about more money and his personal media rights. 

 

Good grief. Scottie may be the only world class athlete today that doesn't have a narrow view of the world. He doesn't care about money and doesn't care about fame. He cares about his family and mastering his craft, how very terrible 🤣

[Shilgy]

8 hours ago, Chanceman said:

Done. Seve and Trevino are the most inspirational golfers I have seen. Scheffler is pretty dull by comparison but if he inspires you then great.

Seve and Lee may be tops in inspirational but I’ll take Scottie as most aspirational for having the game that is the most complete I’ve seen….maybe ever.

[PedronNiall]

2 hours ago, Dutch1008 said:

 

Yeah, a loving husband and fully engaged father who just so happens to be greatest golfer the world has seen for 15 years, totally uninspiring. A man who actually understands that his job is not his singular purpose in life. Total loser. It'd be way cooler if he were getting drunk at Hooters and banging escorts by the dozen. Maybe whining about more money and his personal media rights. 

 

Good grief. Scottie may be the only world class athlete today that doesn't have a narrow view of the world. He doesn't care about money and doesn't care about fame. He cares about his family and mastering his craft, how very terrible 🤣

 

 

Sorry, gotta rabble-rouse and keep the negative energy up. Can't have it getting too upbeat in here. 

[dcfas]

21 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Cheers PN, the best explanation I have for the disparity in popularity is as I said above to @avrag

 

TW is more like Arnold Palmer, just has the qualities that made him a rock star

 

SS more like Jack

 

 

I mean, it his prime Tiger was one of the most recognized celebrities on the entire planet 🌎 

SS on the other hand, just won the open championship, goes to a goes to a movie premiere in NYC and this guy doesn’t even know who he is. 

 

 

But it’s great, I’m really becoming a big fan 🍻 

Yes. 100%. Tiger moved the needle with a dynamic presence. Scottie does make me think about Jack in comparison. Just kind of a relentless checking off of boxes onto winning one after another.

[aabcuue]

1 hour ago, Shilgy said:

Seve and Lee may be tops in inspirational but I’ll take Scottie as most aspirational for having the game that is the most complete I’ve seen….maybe ever.

This quote should make SS more inspirational. If anyone had Walter Mitty dreams or what would happen if they just quit their corporate job, Scotty is the answer.

“I came to golf late. I wasn’t a junior standout or college All-American. At 27, I left a steady corporate job to see if I could be on the PGA Tour starting as a 14-handicap, average-length hitter.
 

Over the years, my journey has been defined less by trophies and more by the relentless effort to navigate the deeply inequitable and gated system of professional golf — an effort that ultimately turned inward and helped me evolve as both a golfer and a person.”

https://www.golfwrx.com/763664/on-scottie-scheffler-wondering-whats-the-point-of-winning/

 

 

[Shilgy]

4 minutes ago, aabcuue said:

This quote should make SS more inspirational. If anyone had Walter Mitty dreams or what would happen if they just quit their corporate job, Scotty is the answer.

“I came to golf late. I wasn’t a junior standout or college All-American. At 27, I left a steady corporate job to see if I could be on the PGA Tour starting as a 14-handicap, average-length hitter.
 

Over the years, my journey has been defined less by trophies and more by the relentless effort to navigate the deeply inequitable and gated system of professional golf — an effort that ultimately turned inward and helped me evolve as both a golfer and a person.”

https://www.golfwrx.com/763664/on-scottie-scheffler-wondering-whats-the-point-of-winning/

 

 

I’m not that deep.🤔 I was just referring to his approach to the game we love and hate and still spend so much time here posting about it. As much as it would be nice to win-as much as possible be it club level or well beyond to pro level- I find his attitude refreshing and freeing. For those in the media and that posted here against what he said in that interview how many feel the way about their job the way they seem to expect Scheffler to feel about his? No profession is the be all end all of your life but that does not preclude a person from doing it to the best of their ability. 

[Dutch1008]

51 minutes ago, PedronNiall said:

 

 

Sorry, gotta rabble-rouse and keep the negative energy up. Can't have it getting too upbeat in here. 

 

I understand personal preferences. I get more excitement watching Rory when he's cooking than watching Scottie dissect a course. Who doesn't enjoy watching Tiger peel a 3i from 240 yds or Phil pull off an impossible flop shot. Those things are great but they don't diminish Scottie's greatness. 

 

People thought Mike Trout was boring because he didn't flip his bat after HRs and stare down the pitcher. The dude just hit his 40 HRs, stole his 40 bases, and played gold glove defense every damn day. 

 

Djokovic didn't possess the biggest serve. He wasn't as graceful as Fededer or as athletic as Nadal. He was just good at everything and extremely competitive. He's not as cool as Bjorn Borg, a rebel like Agassi, or a hot head like McEnroe. He just wins. 

 

Jerry Rice didn't run a 4.3 / 40, he didn't do choreographed celebrations after touchdowns. He was simply a technician that worked effortlessly on his craft. 

 

Jack was no different. He drove it straight an hit his baby cut to the middle of the green. He did nothing but win tournaments and hang w/ his family. 

 

Scottie doesn't need to be Tiger or MJ. Just keep winning. If people don't like his version of greatness, that's their issue, not his. 

[PedronNiall]

4 hours ago, Dutch1008 said:

 

I understand personal preferences. I get more excitement watching Rory when he's cooking than watching Scottie dissect a course. Who doesn't enjoy watching Tiger peel a 3i from 240 yds or Phil pull off an impossible flop shot. Those things are great but they don't diminish Scottie's greatness. 

 

People thought Mike Trout was boring because he didn't flip his bat after HRs and stare down the pitcher. The dude just hit his 40 HRs, stole his 40 bases, and played gold glove defense every damn day. 

 

Djokovic didn't possess the biggest serve. He wasn't as graceful as Fededer or as athletic as Nadal. He was just good at everything and extremely competitive. He's not as cool as Bjorn Borg, a rebel like Agassi, or a hot head like McEnroe. He just wins. 

 

Jerry Rice didn't run a 4.3 / 40, he didn't do choreographed celebrations after touchdowns. He was simply a technician that worked effortlessly on his craft. 

 

Jack was no different. He drove it straight an hit his baby cut to the middle of the green. He did nothing but win tournaments and hang w/ his family. 

 

Scottie doesn't need to be Tiger or MJ. Just keep winning. If people don't like his version of greatness, that's their issue, not his. 

 

Fully agree. I'm glad for Scottie that he's on board with his own program and enjoys the good his job brings without getting wrapped up in it or being defined by it the way some can be. They say most athletes die twice, but pretty sure Scottie will head off into the sunset whenever he decides it's time with no regrets and no longing for what once was. 

[straightshot7]

13 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

 

Not a personal attack. Some seem to think that the other tour is more exciting because of the fiery players that they have.

 

I get it. Some find Scheffler boring and find great golf shots monotonous, but others watch golf for that particular reason.

 

Again, no personal attack, but I would be interested in knowing who you find exciting in today's golf players and why.

spieth, JT, burns, Xander, Rory, Spaun. Aberg, Hovland,

 

these are all people I find more entertaining than sheffler 

 

why? Hard to explain // but they are just not boring af

[ATXGolferGuy]

2 hours ago, straightshot7 said:

spieth, JT, burns, Xander, Rory, Spaun. Aberg, Hovland,

 

these are all people I find more entertaining than sheffler 

 

why? Hard to explain // but they are just not boring af

You honestly find JJ Spaun more entertaining than Scottie?  You can honestly tell us that you turned on the TV thinking, man I wonder what JJ Spaun is shooting today, BEFORE the US Open this year?  Sure he made one heck of a putt on 18 at Oakmont, but what other moment can you recall that just made you go......WOW!  Scottie has a had several of those this year.....even when he wasn't winning.

 

I love Spieth because he's a former Longhorn, and the fact he might get up & down from lord knows where, but I want to see the best player show us how it's supposed to be done....that right now is Scottie showing us how greatness really looks.

[Tiger_Stud]

1 hour ago, ATXGolferGuy said:

You honestly find JJ Spaun more entertaining than Scottie?  You can honestly tell us that you turned on the TV thinking, man I wonder what JJ Spaun is shooting today, BEFORE the US Open this year?  Sure he made one heck of a putt on 18 at Oakmont, but what other moment can you recall that just made you go......WOW!  Scottie has a had several of those this year.....even when he wasn't winning.

 

I love Spieth because he's a former Longhorn, and the fact he might get up & down from lord knows where, but I want to see the best player show us how it's supposed to be done....that right now is Scottie showing us how greatness really looks.

His shot on 17 in the Players playoff! 

[Titleist99]

5 hours ago, ATXGolferGuy said:

You honestly find JJ Spaun more entertaining than Scottie?  You can honestly tell us that you turned on the TV thinking, man I wonder what JJ Spaun is shooting today, BEFORE the US Open this year?  Sure he made one heck of a putt on 18 at Oakmont, but what other moment can you recall that just made you go......WOW!  Scottie has a had several of those this year.....even when he wasn't winning.

 

I love Spieth because he's a former Longhorn, and the fact he might get up & down from lord knows where, but I want to see the best player show us how it's supposed to be done....that right now is Scottie showing us how greatness really looks.

 

Totally agree. ^^^ While Hovland and Aberg are great upcoming young players, when I watch them play, I don't think to myself that they're reaping with excitement. 

 

I'm still amazed how Scheffler hits it pin high and ten feet to the hole with that atrocious footwork. I'm amazed at how he turned horrific putting into a strength. Scheffler rarely short sides himself, and when he does, his short game is rivaled by none.

 

*SS  super power is getting more good looks at birdies than anyone else (and he knows it). Rarely out of the top ten at any tournament.

 

That kind of golf excites me.

[Titleist99]

5 hours ago, ATXGolferGuy said:

I love Spieth because he's a former Longhorn, and the fact he might get up & down from lord knows where, but I want to see the best player show us how it's supposed to be done....that right now is Scottie showing us how greatness really looks.

I like Spieth as a golfer, but sometimes he's just too exhausting to watch.

I root for his return to prominence, but watching him struggle is sad if nothing else.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

6 hours ago, ATXGolferGuy said:

You honestly find JJ Spaun more entertaining than Scottie?  You can honestly tell us that you turned on the TV thinking, man I wonder what JJ Spaun is shooting today, BEFORE the US Open this year?  Sure he made one heck of a putt on 18 at Oakmont, but what other moment can you recall that just made you go......WOW!  Scottie has a had several of those this year.....even when he wasn't winning.

 

I love Spieth because he's a former Longhorn, and the fact he might get up & down from lord knows where, but I want to see the best player show us how it's supposed to be done....that right now is Scottie showing us how greatness really looks.

I'm with you.

 

Scottie is what greatness looks like.  He makes amazing golf look almost routine because he's so good.   

I like JJ because he's a struggling underdog that's suddenly doing great. I love to see that but he's definitely NOT exciting unless you consider the backstory.

Spieth is exciting because it's fun to watch him get out of all the trouble he gets into.  I've always thought watching any pro get out of trouble is good TV. It's not necessarily the best golf but it's interesting golf.   

[Ferguson]

20 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

I like Spieth as a golfer, but sometimes he's just too exhausting to watch.

I root for his return to prominence, but watching him struggle is sad if nothing else.

 

Although we might see an occasional flash, a permanent return to greatness is not coming. 

 

Unfortunately, his best years are behind him.

 

 

Edited July 23 by Ferguson

[Double Mocha Man]

11 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

 

Although we might see an occasional flash, a permanent return to greatness is not coming. 

 

Unfortunately, his best years are behind him.

 

 

 

Ah, he's been Rickie Fowlerized.

[Ferguson]

2 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Ah, he's been Rickie Fowlerized.

 

Marriage, life and easy paychecks.  The game vanished in the blink of an eye. 

 

YJS is now MJS. 

(Mature)

[gvogel]

When I think of a truly great golfer, I think of Ben Hogan.  He came from nothing, and nearly lost whatever he had trying to chase his dream.  Once he started to win, he never tired of trying to be the best.  At 60 on gimpy legs, he was still out competing to be the best.  

 

I don't see Scottie with that kind of desire when he's close to 50.  And I'm OK with that; it is a different world for the cream of the professional golf kingdom.

[Titleist99]

21 hours ago, Dutch1008 said:

 

Yeah, a loving husband and fully engaged father who just so happens to be greatest golfer the world has seen for 15 years, totally uninspiring. A man who actually understands that his job is not his singular purpose in life. Total loser. It'd be way cooler if he were getting drunk at Hooters and banging escorts by the dozen. Maybe whining about more money and his personal media rights. 

 

Good grief. Scottie may be the only world class athlete today that doesn't have a narrow view of the world. He doesn't care about money and doesn't care about fame. He cares about his family and mastering his craft, how very terrible 🤣

Yeah, but he's no Grant Horvat. 🤣

 

*satire

[StoutKing]

34 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

 

Marriage, life and easy paychecks.  The game vanished in the blink of an eye. 

 

YJS is now MJS. 

(Mature)

Ha ha.  I like it.  Been calling him MAJS for some time now

[bekgolf]

48 minutes ago, gvogel said:

When I think of a truly great golfer, I think of Ben Hogan.  He came from nothing, and nearly lost whatever he had trying to chase his dream.  Once he started to win, he never tired of trying to be the best.  At 60 on gimpy legs, he was still out competing to be the best.  

 

I don't see Scottie with that kind of desire when he's close to 50.  And I'm OK with that; it is a different world for the cream of the professional golf kingdom.

 

I have a feeling that winning on the big stage is habit forming.  The endorphin rush must be indescribable and make everything right with the world for a short while and drive the quest for more wins.

[Ferguson]

4 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

Yeah, but he's no Grant Horvat. 🤣

 

*satire

 

Who?

 

 

[Ferguson]

4 hours ago, gvogel said:

 

 

I don't see Scottie with that kind of desire when he's close to 50.  And I'm OK with that; it is a different world for the cream of the professional golf kingdom.

 

When Scheffler is over 50, I see myself, essentially out of my mind, being seated overlooking a grassy field or body of water. 

 

Someone will ask, "Ferg, would you like more potato salad?"  And I will reply, "T Rex is my favorite dinosaur, and Jay Don Blake is my favorite golfer; Qatar Masters, bah."

 

[NosajNeelik]

On 7/22/2025 at 2:32 AM, golfingonly4fun said:

From my vantage marshalling the practice range, with a kid's autograph zone, he never signed a thing and didn't even wave or smile to the kids shouting his name. Whereas Tyrrell spent almost a half hour signing, as did Bryson and Phil and i'm sure others i wasn't there for.

real American 

[tiderider]

On 7/22/2025 at 1:32 AM, golfingonly4fun said:

From my vantage marshalling the practice range, with a kid's autograph zone, he never signed a thing and didn't even wave or smile to the kids shouting his name. Whereas Tyrrell spent almost a half hour signing, as did Bryson and Phil and i'm sure others i wasn't there for.

oh, my ... horrible for those kids ... hope they survived ... 

[Chanceman]

19 minutes ago, tiderider said:

oh, my ... horrible for those kids ... hope they survived ... 

Those kids will be cheering for someone else next time. And then Scheffler can complain some more about the crowd wanting someone else to win.  He does not seem to realize he is blest to play a game beloved by so many. He says he was called to play golf - is that unlike you or me ? Sure he is phenomenal but pretty sure he does not appreciate the significance of the game in the lives of others. 

[Duct Tape]

6 hours ago, StoutKing said:

Ha ha.  I like it.  Been calling him MAJS for some time now

It’s pretty hard to shake a moniker. I had a college one that I haven’t yet convinced my buddies to drop. 
 

For me he’s still YJS.  🤓🏌🏼‍♀️

[bobfoster]

5 hours ago, bekgolf said:

6 hours ago, gvogel said:

When I think of a truly great golfer, I think of Ben Hogan.  He came from nothing, and nearly lost whatever he had trying to chase his dream.  Once he started to win, he never tired of trying to be the best.  At 60 on gimpy legs, he was still out competing to be the best.  

 

I don't see Scottie with that kind of desire when he's close to 50.  And I'm OK with that; it is a different world for the cream of the professional golf kingdom.

 

I have a feeling that winning on the big stage is habit forming.  The endorphin rush must be indescribable and make everything right with the world for a short while and drive the quest for more wins.

Possibly for some, but according to Scottie the "thrill of victory" lasts for, like, two minutes. 

 

And I think @gvogel is correct here. Golf has changed dramatically since Hogan. Scottie just won $3.6 million for the 2025 Open - in Jack's entire career on the PGAT, his total winnings were ... $5.7MM - Scottie made over half of that in a single week. These guys today live in a different universe. I think almost the entire OWGR top 100 are millionaires right now. And even if you don't win much anymore, but have decent name recognition, you can always hope for an invite to the YouTube Exhibition Tour, where you get participation prizes even if you finish last.

 

Tiger had a bit of what you are talking about - the 2019 Masters was almost unbelievable, a decade without a major, years of back issues and surgeries and he still did everything in his power to play at the highest level (Hogan was very similar). But really? I don't ever see Scottie doing that. His game is (currently) the best in the world, but I just don't see the same fire for the game as others have had. He's never had to deal with any really serious injury, and he's already all existential and asking "what does golf really matter in the big picture?"

 

He's a great golfer, but he'll never be a Hogan or Tiger. 

[Dutch1008]

34 minutes ago, Chanceman said:

Those kids will be cheering for someone else next time. And then Scheffler can complain some more about the crowd wanting someone else to win.  He does not seem to realize he is blest to play a game beloved by so many. He says he was called to play golf - is that unlike you or me ? Sure he is phenomenal but pretty sure he does not appreciate the significance of the game in the lives of others. 

 

What are you talking about? He didn't complain. He acknowledge that the crowd was pulling for Rory and Shane. Which was obvious on TV and probably more obvious to the guy paired w/ Shane Lowry over the 1st two rounds. Further, a quick google search will show endless pictures and videos of Scottie signing autographs for kids. Here's a video from Royal Troon...

 

https://www.pgatour.com/video/features/6358090438112/scottie-scheffler-signs-autographs-at-royal-troon

 

You're entitled to think he's boring but lets not make up stories that imply he's a garbage person. By all accounts, prodigal son Rory included, Scottie is a great guy. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chanceman]

1 hour ago, Dutch1008 said:

 

What are you talking about? He didn't complain. He acknowledge that the crowd was pulling for Rory and Shane. Which was obvious on TV and probably more obvious to the guy paired w/ Shane Lowry over the 1st two rounds. Further, a quick google search will show endless pictures and videos of Scottie signing autographs for kids. Here's a video from Royal Troon...

 

https://www.pgatour.com/video/features/6358090438112/scottie-scheffler-signs-autographs-at-royal-troon

 

You're entitled to think he's boring but lets not make up stories that imply he's a garbage person. By all accounts, prodigal son Rory included, Scottie is a great guy. 

 

 

 

 

 

I’ve not said he was a garbage person.  By all accounts he’s very decent. Good for him. By the way that vid is from Royal Troon last year.