Poor iron shots- what am I doing wrong?

[subh2905]

Hi everyone

 

Posting for the first time here. I have been having a really difficult time with my irons, topping or thinning them with frightening regularity on the course. Interestingly, I don't usually have an issue launching my driver or my 3 hybrid, or even a 5 hybrid. But shorter irons are a real struggle. Link attached for DTL indoor swing with a foam ball (i did not have space for a front video).

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/tTlGZr4Kgdw?si=CiVR6XY-szcz9RIY

 

Had taken lessons previously and the coach had asked me to put an alignment stick pointing 30-40 degrees to the right and swing along that line to get the in-to-out feel. That's what I am trying in the video.

 

Appreciate any insights, and what I should be doing better. Thanks in advance!  

[Valtiel]

8 hours ago, subh2905 said:

Hi everyone

 

Posting for the first time here. I have been having a really difficult time with my irons, topping or thinning them with frightening regularity on the course. Interestingly, I don't usually have an issue launching my driver or my 3 hybrid, or even a 5 hybrid. But shorter irons are a real struggle. Link attached for DTL indoor swing with a foam ball (i did not have space for a front video).

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/tTlGZr4Kgdw?si=CiVR6XY-szcz9RIY

 

Had taken lessons previously and the coach had asked me to put an alignment stick pointing 30-40 degrees to the right and swing along that line to get the in-to-out feel. That's what I am trying in the video.

 

Appreciate any insights, and what I should be doing better. Thanks in advance!  

It's tough to say too much in a video where you're actively decelerating through impact due to hitting indoors, but we can definitely see that you're overswinging quite a lot in the backswing (getting way beyond parallel) and coming down out and steep for the and a few other reasons.  Your hips aren't working correctly either even in this shorter swing in that you're throwing your right side out towards the ball. You'll need to post a full video hitting real balls at normal speed to get a decent breakdown though. 

[subh2905]

thanks @Valtiel for your comment. I know I overswing and I’ve found it really hard to overcome this, as it is probably the key reason for my swing issues. 
 

I will post some better videos of my swing for your analysis. I’ve seen and read your comments on many swings, you’re an absolute legend 😃

Edited July 19 by subh2905

[Valtiel]

11 hours ago, subh2905 said:

thanks @Valtiel for your comment. I know I overswing and I’ve found it really hard to overcome this, as it is probably the key reason for my swing issues. 
 

I will post some better videos of my swing for your analysis. I’ve seen and read your comments on many swings, you’re an absolute legend 😃

Thanks for the kind words! I followed your YouTube link back to your channel and saw you have some full swings there. One really big thing to comment on is a very noticeable version of a super comment weight shift/sequencing problem you have going on here:



Marking your hips, we see basically no lateral shifting of pressure in your initial takeaway as it appears that you're just trying to turn your hips in place...



And then a HUGE lateral shift/slide up to the top of the swing. This is backwards and a recipe for all sorts of problems as it's now physically impossible to rotate properly in the downswing with all your pressure on that back leg. Everything in this linked post here applies to you with an explanation of why it all matters, so please check that out!

[subh2905]

Thank you very much for looking into my old videos! I get what you're saying, I think i was trying to keep myself "centred" and not sway off, but I obviously implemented it incorrectly. I'll go through the link and revert with any questions.  

[subh2905]

I read through the link you posted, and I can see that my swing has all the issues you've spoken about. I'm left handed in all other sports but I play golf right handed, so I do wonder if I'm missing out on some natural instincts.

 

Nevertheless, I do want to improve, and was wondering if I should start with reducing the overswinging? Saw this post from Monte, should I begin with this?

 

  

Edited July 21 by subh2905

[TheDeanAbides]

8 hours ago, subh2905 said:

I read through the link you posted, and I can see that my swing has all the issues you've spoken about. I'm left handed in all other sports but I play golf right handed, so I do wonder if I'm missing out on some natural instincts.

 

Nevertheless, I do want to improve, and was wondering if I should start with reducing the overswinging? Saw this post from Monte, should I begin with this?

 

  

Being lefty playing righty isn't important. I don't have any of these issues playing the wrong way around. You just need to learn to shift, turn, shift, turn. You've proven that you can shift, all you need now is to do it in the correct sequence. 

Edited July 21 by TheDeanAbides

[subh2905]

Hello again.... Thanks for all the advice, I tried to give shift-turn-shift-turn a go, and I must say it feels a lot more fluid even if the result is sub par at the moment (overswinging still an issue, but I have decided to work on the shift only for now). Previously, I had been told numerous times that swaying to the right is a bad move so I kept trying to centre myself, but got no momentum to move forward as a result. The explanation of @Valtiel about Adam Scott's swing, particularly the first move, was truly enlightening.

 

The immediate feedback when I bumped right at the start was that the shift forward became more natural instead of being forced. So now I think I understand the mechanics a little better!

 

One issue I'm having though is that it's difficult to do this slowly.... I understand from many of you that I need to groove it at 70-80% first before going full speed, but when i reduce my tempo, the swing kind of breaks down. Anyway will keep plugging at that, it's a journey after all.

 

Front view : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iizg2pq_enI

 

DTL : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KtXoqkDBqQ4

 

P.S. will improve video quality next time, I forgot to carry my camera stand.  

Edited July 24 by subh2905