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AK has a flat swing plane, his irons must be at least 2* flat!

 

 

so what anyway? He doesn't appear to be that tall so I think that is totally plausible. I play MP-30 Mizuno's which are about 1-2 degrees flat of standard at stock because that is what's right for me... I don't see why this is such a newsflash.

 

Anyone remember Ian Woosnam? Guy was like what -- 5'4" -- how about Corey Pavin...

 

Also, just because his swing plane is flat doesn't necessarily mean he's not coming in at a steep angle... Anyway, not all athletes are made the same, and every swing is different, even at impact (angle that is), so who cares if he's 8 degrees flat -- sorry, just don't see the shock and awe here...

 

and if your post is more in the vein that he's misrepresenting his specs -- well good God, he definitely wouldn't be the first...

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He could be std lie angle on the irons but makes his irons play flat by gripping down on the club by 3inches ( effective 6flat ) because he learned to play by using his father's stock irons.

 

+1. Choking down on the irons make them play flatter than they are when used at full length. I used to do this when I was a kid before all this customization became accessable to the avg joe.

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Do a search, somewhere on here there is a list of his irons and specs straight from the NIKE van.

 

I'd like to see that

 

 

Here ya go. Go to the search bar, type in "Nike Tour Van Visit" and there you go, look through the pics and you'll find one pic that is the list of AK's specs lofts, and lies. His irons are about 2* strong in loft and 2* flat in lie angle.

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Do a search, somewhere on here there is a list of his irons and specs straight from the NIKE van.

 

I'd like to see that

 

 

Here ya go. Go to the search bar, type in "Nike Tour Van Visit" and there you go, look through the pics and you'll find one pic that is the list of AK's specs lofts, and lies. His irons are about 2* strong in loft and 2* flat in lie angle.

 

 

They seem to only 1* stronger for 3,4,6,7,8,9 and 1/2 stornger on the PW. Checking from the mike website.

 

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AK has a flat swing plane, his irons must be at least 2* flat!

 

 

so what anyway? He doesn't appear to be that tall so I think that is totally plausible. I play MP-30 Mizuno's which are about 1-2 degrees flat of standard at stock because that is what's right for me... I don't see why this is such a newsflash.

 

Anyone remember Ian Woosnam? Guy was like what -- 5'4" -- how about Corey Pavin...

 

Also, just because his swing plane is flat doesn't necessarily mean he's not coming in at a steep angle... Anyway, not all athletes are made the same, and every swing is different, even at impact (angle that is), so who cares if he's 8 degrees flat -- sorry, just don't see the shock and awe here...

 

and if your post is more in the vein that he's misrepresenting his specs -- well good God, he definitely wouldn't be the first...

 

It says he's 5'10" on the PGA Tour website.

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AK has a flat swing plane, his irons must be at least 2* flat!

 

I know he likes his irons longer then standard, and visually his swing appears upright so I suspect they his irons are upright.

 

PS, based on the img shown earlier I was close. People don't realize just how jacked pro lofts are which contributes to their distances. Some of his irons are 1-2* stronger then mine.

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People don't realize just how jacked pro lofts are which contributes to their distances. Some of his irons are 1-2* stronger then mine.

 

For the most part 1* of loft only contributes to an extra 3 yards of carry.....hardly why they are hitting their irons so far.

 

To add, a number of pros (e.g. Tiger) actually have WEAKER lofts (I think Tiger's 9I is the loft of a stock PW) than standard and still get the ball way out there....

 

How do you explain that?

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People don't realize just how jacked pro lofts are which contributes to their distances. Some of his irons are 1-2* stronger then mine.

 

For the most part 1* of loft only contributes to an extra 3 yards of carry.....hardly why they are hitting their irons so far.

 

To add, a number of pros (e.g. Tiger) actually have WEAKER lofts (I think Tiger's 9I is the loft of a stock PW) than standard and still get the ball way out there....

 

How do you explain that?

 

Thats true. his PW is something like 51* loft

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Titleist TSR2 18* w/ Fuji Ventus Red 8-X
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AK has a flat swing plane, his irons must be at least 2* flat!

 

I know he likes his irons longer then standard, and visually his swing appears upright so I suspect they his irons are upright.

 

PS, based on the img shown earlier I was close. People don't realize just how jacked pro lofts are which contributes to their distances. Some of his irons are 1-2* stronger then mine.

 

Somewhere else on this site I saw his lengths which are actually shorter than today's "standard." His stock 5 iron I believe is 37.5".

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Also, just because his swing plane is flat doesn't necessarily mean he's not coming in at a steep angle... Anyway, not all athletes are made the same, and every swing is different, even at impact (angle that is)...

 

Agree.

 

Cool that someone posted his specs, I thought for sure they would be flatter than that based on his small stature but the impact position is what matters.

 

Another pro who is pretty darn short and has a very diff swing, Ryan Moore, actually was specced green dots when he was with Ping (2* up I beleive). Take a look at his super low hands at address and this swing, I would never have thought upright lies fro him.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WylpbuE1R4g

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