How to seriously boost clubhead speed???

[eli_yates]

straight up... look up the aj bonar method. its basically just over rotating your wrists during impact.

its basically all timing in that swing method.

aj suggests opening the clubface and swing normally but over rotate your wrists. as long as your timing is correct you could theoretically add up to 15 miles per hour.

Golf Digest did an article on it and ran some tests or whatever. the article definitely showed some promising results. and so if you are interested in adding mph to your swing instantaneously you should consider that method. and honestly... dont think you just have to hit draws that way... i also use it to hit power fades.

its just right for you if you have the time to develop good timing.

[Socrates]

[quote name='owaisdurrani' post='1677327' date='May 5 2009, 02:06 PM']THANKS A LOT GUYS! All your advice is really helping me kind of make a plan for what I need to do. Keep the advice coming.[/quote]

Natural talent only takes you so far. Virtually every player on every Tour works on their conditioning. Strength, flexibility and cardio but I can guarantee you that everyone of them that wants to hit it further works on their core muscle strength. Their core muscles are the key to their distance. It's a full body rotation - not just the arms. That's how these small guys and girls hit it so far (besides real good technique and computer analysis of everything to make the ball go further).

Villegas is a perfect example of a 150 lb guy hitting it 300+ in the air. Not only is he strong but he is strong in all the right areas for maximum golf clubhead speed. Tiger makes it look so easy because he is not only talented, but every muscle is used to swing fast and every muscle is also used to support that swing speed (power, distance and accuracy).

For a long term plan, you need to work on getting your swing as good as you can so you have no power leaks (that means working with a golf pro) and while you are doing that get a golf fitness test done to identify what you need to do to get your body ready to hit the ball further (hitting the gym). In a few months you should see an increase in distance while keeping it in play.

[keiko]

Workout on golf muscles including the core. Also, have your equipment adjusted to fit your swing.
Also, make sure you can hit the ball flush in the center of the face.
[quote name='owaisdurrani' post='1676928' date='May 5 2009, 12:21 PM'][quote name='markponi' post='1676902' date='May 5 2009, 12:12 PM']Is your swing good? How far do you hit the driver now?[/quote]


I take lessons at GolfTec and my swing is developing pretty well. Been playing golf for about 3 year. I just think clubhead speed would really help me hit pure irons and hit my driver farther.
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[station2station]

Make sure you are swinging the club at the bottom of your arc instead of throwing it from the top.

[b]They did a study a few years ago that showed that most mid-cap golfers have a driver clubhead speed that is 15mph faster at the top than when they get to the ball. They initiate their speed from the top of the backswing and it's decelerated by the time they are at the ball.
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You probably have a 105+ mph clubhead speed somewhere in your arc.

I wish I could give you the magic pill to help you do this. It's a gift - a gift I don't naturally have

[dap]

[quote name='station2station' post='2038752' date='Nov 2 2009, 03:57 AM']Make sure you are swinging the club at the bottom of your arc instead of throwing it from the top.

[b]They did a study a few years ago that showed that most mid-cap golfers have a driver clubhead speed that is 15mph faster at the top than when they get to the ball. They initiate their speed from the top of the backswing and it's decelerated by the time they are at the ball.
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You probably have a 105+ mph clubhead speed somewhere in your arc.

I wish I could give you the magic pill to help you do this. It's a gift - a gift I don't naturally have [/quote]

I can believe that but a bit surprised with the 15mph difference.....

[trapsmv15]

[quote name='eli_yates' post='2038088' date='Oct 31 2009, 08:25 PM']straight up... look up the aj bonar method. its basically just over rotating your wrists during impact.

its basically all timing in that swing method.

aj suggests opening the clubface and swing normally but over rotate your wrists. as long as your timing is correct you could theoretically add up to 15 miles per hour.

Golf Digest did an article on it and ran some tests or whatever. the article definitely showed some promising results. and so if you are interested in adding mph to your swing instantaneously you should consider that method. and honestly... dont think you just have to hit draws that way... i also use it to hit power fades.

its just right for you if you have the time to develop good timing.[/quote]
No offense meant to the poster, but don't do this. Just don't. Sorry.

[DLiver]

[quote name='socrates' post='2038738' date='Nov 1 2009, 12:47 PM']Villegas is a perfect example of a 150 lb guy hitting it 300+ in the air. Not only is he strong but he is strong in all the right areas for maximum golf clubhead speed. Tiger makes it look so easy because he is not only talented, but every muscle is used to swing fast and every muscle is also used to support that swing speed (power, distance and accuracy).[/quote]

Villegas is a great example for people that think that you either have speed or you don't. Villegas was easily the shortest hitter on his college team his first year there. He became a gym rat at college and by his senior year, he was bombing the ball.

There is no doubt that strength (explosive power) will enable you to hit the ball better and farther.

[station2station]

[quote name='dap' post='2038771' date='Nov 1 2009, 10:10 AM'][quote name='station2station' post='2038752' date='Nov 2 2009, 03:57 AM']Make sure you are swinging the club at the bottom of your arc instead of throwing it from the top.

[b]They did a study a few years ago that showed that most mid-cap golfers have a driver clubhead speed that is 15mph faster at the top than when they get to the ball. They initiate their speed from the top of the backswing and it's decelerated by the time they are at the ball.
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You probably have a 105+ mph clubhead speed somewhere in your arc.

I wish I could give you the magic pill to help you do this. It's a gift - a gift I don't naturally have [/quote]

I can believe that but a bit surprised with the 15mph difference.....
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That's what it read. 15mph.

I actually believe it.

I am 6'3" and 196lbs. I'm a competitive swimmer and have been much of my life.. I have a huge arc but as hard as I swing I really only have about a 98mph clubhead speed - sometimes as much as 101mph if the planets line up. Unfortunately I have a bit of a cast with my driver. I can lag my irons all day long but for some reason when I stroke a driver I feel like swinging hard from the top.

I know it's the wrong technique but my primal brain is in control here...

People who see me swing indoors think my clubhead speed is 100-teens and think I should be in an X flex shaft, but it's not that fast.

I suck with my driver distance wise. I envy you guys with good driver technique.

[atlanta golfer]

I had a lesson yesterday and it was interesting to see the video and hear the instructor. Basically, my setup and angles were all pretty good except during the last few feet of the downswing the club head was catching up to my arms and I was coming through the ball with almost no lag, resulting in mediocre distance and also some loss of accuracy. It is so counter-intuitive to think that you can start the downward move with the feet, knees, legs, and hips, and then basically the shoulders and arms just follow. Like the game of crack the whip we used to play on ice skates with a bunch of people all connected together. But I already am feeling a clear difference, after just working with this yesterday and today. It is pretty easy to feel it with chipping and pitching and then moving on to punch shots and full swing.

I am thinking the swing speed result is 1. what you are born with 2. method and technique and 3. strength and flexibility

Given that we can't do much about #1, I am thinking the best approach is to get some instruction and feedback on method, and also, work in the gym or with a golf specific strength training aid.

For me, anyway, it is really about trying to make the hands passive. Make the body turn, from the ground up, and then get the shoulder and arms to kind of react to the body and accelerate on through. It is definitely a feel thing, not anything that can easily be described like paint by the numbers.

[jml]

www.golfstrong.com - This is part of tour tempo and there are some speed tools on the site that you can order.

[eli_yates]

[quote name='trapsmv15' post='2038773' date='Nov 1 2009, 12:11 PM'][quote name='eli_yates' post='2038088' date='Oct 31 2009, 08:25 PM']straight up... look up the aj bonar method. its basically just over rotating your wrists during impact.

its basically all timing in that swing method.

aj suggests opening the clubface and swing normally but over rotate your wrists. as long as your timing is correct you could theoretically add up to 15 miles per hour.

Golf Digest did an article on it and ran some tests or whatever. the article definitely showed some promising results. and so if you are interested in adding mph to your swing instantaneously you should consider that method. and honestly... dont think you just have to hit draws that way... i also use it to hit power fades.

its just right for you if you have the time to develop good timing.[/quote]
No offense meant to the poster, but don't do this. Just don't. Sorry.
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what do you mean dont try this? its not a bad route to go at all... if you have the time to practice. do some research before you go telling people what to and what not to try... no offence... but do your due diligence before responding... i understand this is an open forum that anyone can state anything they want... but at least do some research first.

regardless I offered advice that would have give the OP exactly what he was asking for. more clubhead speed instantaneously.

is it for everyone no of course not...

[gmbtempe]

[quote name='eli_yates' post='2042371' date='Nov 2 2009, 11:18 PM'][quote name='trapsmv15' post='2038773' date='Nov 1 2009, 12:11 PM'][quote name='eli_yates' post='2038088' date='Oct 31 2009, 08:25 PM']straight up... look up the aj bonar method. its basically just over rotating your wrists during impact.

its basically all timing in that swing method.

aj suggests opening the clubface and swing normally but over rotate your wrists. as long as your timing is correct you could theoretically add up to 15 miles per hour.

Golf Digest did an article on it and ran some tests or whatever. the article definitely showed some promising results. and so if you are interested in adding mph to your swing instantaneously you should consider that method. and honestly... dont think you just have to hit draws that way... i also use it to hit power fades.

its just right for you if you have the time to develop good timing.[/quote]
No offense meant to the poster, but don't do this. Just don't. Sorry.
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what do you mean dont try this? its not a bad route to go at all... if you have the time to practice. do some research before you go telling people what to and what not to try... no offence... but do your due diligence before responding... i understand this is an open forum that anyone can state anything they want... but at least do some research first.

regardless I offered advice that would have give the OP exactly what he was asking for. more clubhead speed instantaneously.

is it for everyone no of course not...
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The AJ Bonar method can work but to me it brings into timing elements that make it harder to have a repeatable swing.....but yea, roll them hands over, dont throw away the flat left wrist, and get the face square, it will go farther.

[station2station]

[quote name='eli_yates' post='2042371' date='Nov 2 2009, 11:18 PM'][quote name='trapsmv15' post='2038773' date='Nov 1 2009, 12:11 PM'][quote name='eli_yates' post='2038088' date='Oct 31 2009, 08:25 PM']straight up... look up the aj bonar method. its basically just over rotating your wrists during impact.

its basically all timing in that swing method.

aj suggests opening the clubface and swing normally but over rotate your wrists. as long as your timing is correct you could theoretically add up to 15 miles per hour.

Golf Digest did an article on it and ran some tests or whatever. the article definitely showed some promising results. and so if you are interested in adding mph to your swing instantaneously you should consider that method. and honestly... dont think you just have to hit draws that way... i also use it to hit power fades.

its just right for you if you have the time to develop good timing.[/quote]
No offense meant to the poster, but don't do this. Just don't. Sorry.
[/quote]


what do you mean dont try this? its not a bad route to go at all... if you have the time to practice. do some research before you go telling people what to and what not to try... no offence... but do your due diligence before responding... i understand this is an open forum that anyone can state anything they want... but at least do some research first.

regardless I offered advice that would have give the OP exactly what he was asking for. more clubhead speed instantaneously.

is it for everyone no of course not...
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Don't be upset - I think we all know this move. I don't think he said "don't do this" without understanding you advice.

I read that article in GD about 4 years ago (maybe there was another more recently) and I don't think it's something that helps. Amateurs get handsy when you tell them to roll their wrists over. Handsy is the power leak he currently has. Throwing the club from the top is rooted in the wrists and hands.

Lag and rolling over the wrists are opposite moves [i]in the mind of an amateur[/i]. They can't co-exist "conceptually" so you essentially are putting their thought process in their hands and that's counter productive to his bigger leak.

[davidy48]

You might want to look at the set of exercises devised by a guy called Paul Bertholy. They are designed to strengthen the core muscles, tendons, joints etc needed to support a swing, while at the same time ingraining good swing mechanics. A friend of mine recently released his own version, using me as a guinea pig. I've been using them for about a month, 15/20 minutes per day, and reckon I'm a club longer all round, with better ball striking as well, and I feel there's a lot more to come. He's also incorporated some excellent stuff on the mental side to help get it from the range to the course - so a real complete package. And he offers video support if you need it. Drop me an email to davidy48@versatel.nl ( I'm in Holland ) and I can put you in touch. I hasten to add I have absolutely no commercial interest in this whatsoever.

[The_Lama]

Natural Ability. Technique. Equipment. Strength. AND Practice.

You've received a lot of good advice in this thread. Let me give you a different perspective. I learned to play golf when I was young, maybe 7 or 8. My dad eventually quit playing so I was left with basically hitting balls into the field next to our house when I was a little older (11-14ish). I focused on hitting tee shots. When I was older (your age and into my 30s) I could just kill the ball. I was 5'7" and up to about 170 lbs. at my peak. I'm a little older now and lost a lot of weight in the last few years. I'm down to 135 lbs. I still swing the club the same...everything feels the same...but I'm only hitting it 220-230--occasionally further.

I know what it's like to drive greens in the 280-315 yard range or hit balls on the range in the air 260+ and ocassionally through the end. I can't do it now because I'm just not that strong anymore. HOWEVER, I don't drive through fairways or into the trees anymore either. I hit almost every fairway and when I miss it isn't by much. Yet, I still score the same and often lower.

So my advice is: use what you have; learn to refine your technique; PRACTICE; and be happy with every shot you hit 230 in the fairway. With effort you'll get a little longer, but don't trade length for accuracy.

I have a whole different perspective on the game now and use a lot more of the clubs in my bag.

[djjack04]

get in the gym and do workouts performing fast-twitch muscle exercises

[jaycajun]

I think that learning to to properly swing inside out and release the club (if you currently don't) will be the easiest way to DRAMATICALLY increase your swing speed. Since I have caught on to a really good inside out swing path and a natural release, I have never, in my life, hit the driver so high and so far with way less effort than I used to use. Doing it incorrectly, for the past 10 years, I was basically "bunting". Swinging hard with pretty much no lag.... If you alreay have a good path and release the club properly, the only thing I have heard of is to work on a faster, not harder, downswing move that "continues to acclerate".

[wesparov]

Swing as hard as u can, make sure u hit it in the sweetspot.

I check the clubface every time (in the range) I drive a ball to make sure the ball is hit in the 1.5 square inch of the club face.

Do not put much pressure in yr arms when up swing.

A routinely push-up and pull-up might make yr shoulder stronger.

And, make sure yr shoulder turn is >than 90 deg.

Make sure u catch the ball a little after the lowest point of yr driver.

Hope this help.

[mission_scratch]

flexibility, and technique along with power is a great trio... Currently Im working on my power, my fliexibility is way above average (Jiu-Jitsu helps) my swing is good, and once I get my power better I will be very happy..Currently average about 270 on the drives, sometimes when I really try to hit it I can bomb it.. but I believe its due to my flexibility and swing more than power..