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Have not hit either of those sets but I do know of another set that fits the bill: PING i15.

The i15 short irons have player's profiles (thin topline, shorter head-to-toe) while the longer irons have thicker toplines and soles (but are far from shovels like most GI irons). The long irons also are relatively longer heel-to-toe. I'm a 10 and they're the perfect "tweener" set for me. Love them.

As with any golf club, just make sure you get the right shaft for your swing. Some love the stock AWT shafts but I didn't care for them much - too light, too spinny. Much prefer the KBS Tours on these i15's.

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I have not hit the 300's because im a lefty but my bestfriend had the chance to hit them and he feel in love. He was currently using titleist AP1 and said the difference in feel was unexplainable. I have hit Ap1's and Ap2's then switched to mp-57's so i know the feeling difference he is talking about. MX-300's have been called the best iron made by more people than i would like to admit... Just sucks they wont give us leftys some love.

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[quote name='non' date='17 February 2010 - 10:56 AM' timestamp='1266422174' post='2257583']
I10s if you want something cheaper.
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Good point. Will keep them in mind.

[quote name='lunny' date='17 February 2010 - 11:02 AM' timestamp='1266422575' post='2257600']
I have not hit the 300's because im a lefty but my bestfriend had the chance to hit them and he feel in love. He was currently using titleist AP1 and said the difference in feel was unexplainable. I have hit Ap1's and Ap2's then switched to mp-57's so i know the feeling difference he is talking about. MX-300's have been called the best iron made by more people than i would like to admit... Just sucks they wont give us leftys some love.
[/quote]

The MX-300s feel great for sure! I think I'm adding AP2 710 to my list though, they seem to be pretty forgiving as well.

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MP52, I guess this set would fit the description. Weaker lofts, less offset, yet very forgiving like a GI set.

[size=2][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Taylormade M1 10.5* - Fujikura Speeder 661[/font][/size]
[size=2][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Tour Edge Exotics EX9 Tour 13* - Diamana S+ 70S[/font][/size]
[size=2][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Tour Edge Exotics CB Pro 14.5* - Fujikura Speeder 661[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Adams Idea Pro A12 23* - Aldila RIPd VS Proto[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Bridgestone J36 PC (4-PW) - KBS Tour[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Nike Engage 56TS & 60S- DG S200[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Mizuno-Bettinardi BC1[/font][/size]

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[size="1"][quote name='elchene' date='18 February 2010 - 11:30 AM' timestamp='1266510617' post='2260008']
The MX-300s feel great for sure! I think I'm adding AP2 710 to my list though, they seem to be pretty forgiving as well.
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One thing to consider between the AP2s and the MX300s and really for all irons, are the shafts. While many of the heads blur the line between GI/Players, the shafts are an indication of who the OEM intended to play the irons. If you plan to special order or change shafts, no issue, but if you want the convienence of staying with stock, that will have to be a consideration.

The MX 300 comes with a lighter Dynalite Gold and the AP2 with Dynamic Gold. If you want a regular shaft it is harder to find on the shelves in AP2s. Others for your consideration:

Callaway Diablo Forged (Cast face)
Nike Forged MachSpeed (Japan - Cast face)
Taylormade R9 Forged (Japan-May release)might still be relased in U.S.
Taylormade Burner Forged (Japan)
TE Exotics XCG3

As we can see, the Japan market puts a high value on this segment that often includes Forged or 2pc Forged Irons with GI designs.

TaylorMade Qi10 Max 10.5 Ventus TR Blue 5
TaylorMade Qi10 Tour 4 Wood Ventus TR Blue 6
TaylorMade Qi10 Rescue Max 3 Ventus TR Blue 6 

TaylorMade Qi10 Rescue 4, 5 Ventus TR Blue 6
TaylorMade P790 (2021) 6-9 DG95

TaylorMade P770 PW DG115
TaylorMade 50, 55, 60 DG200
TaylorMade / Balboa / Berwick
TaylorMade Burner TP LDP / TP5x
Ogio Bags:  Winter-Grom, Edge, Ozone (walk) / Summer-Edge, Vaporlite (walk) / Nexos (Cart)

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I have been in the same boat here for the last cpl weeks. I went with the MX300. The AP1 and 2 were really good, and I really liked the Cleveland Black Pearls. Close to MX300 in feel, IMO.

But the MX300's just feel sooo good. :)

I have never hit forged before so this is a new experience for me. Now I know what people mean by smooth. And also the feedback you get is really cool.

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+1 on what gvogel mentioned. Same with the I701.

[size=2][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Taylormade M1 10.5* - Fujikura Speeder 661[/font][/size]
[size=2][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Tour Edge Exotics EX9 Tour 13* - Diamana S+ 70S[/font][/size]
[size=2][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Tour Edge Exotics CB Pro 14.5* - Fujikura Speeder 661[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Adams Idea Pro A12 23* - Aldila RIPd VS Proto[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Bridgestone J36 PC (4-PW) - KBS Tour[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Nike Engage 56TS & 60S- DG S200[/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Mizuno-Bettinardi BC1[/font][/size]

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If you are looking for a great feeling club, I'd stay away from the Ping i10. I think they perform great, look great and have a level of forgiveness that I need, but the feel is just not there (IMO). Though it could be the shafts, I've been playing the AWT. I'm trying out a set of I701 tours with the TC3 shaft... we'll see how they compare.

Have fun in your search!!



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If you're a 10 or less, Cally X-Forged.

I tried all the new Mizzy's with bunch of shafts. I dig the swing dna thingy. I kept going back to X-Forged and ordered them.

Butter.

2015 GBB 10.5 - MRC B Series 60S 44.75"
RFX 3 & 5 Woods MRC BB 73
RFX 7 Wood Matrix Black Tie 7M3
XHot Pro Hybrid 23 Accra Shaft
Apex Pro 5-W KBS Tour V or Recoil 110 S-flex (Recoil for Winter Season)
Odyssey WhiteHot Pro #7 Flatso Ultra grip
X Forged C Grind 52*
PM Grind 58* KBS 610 Wedge
Chrome Soft 2016 Yellow
Hdcp - between 3 to 5 over the year

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r7 TP's if you are looking for cheap. Definitely one of the best feeling cast clubs out there, super forgiving for a players iron, but still very workable.

D - Tour Burner TP 9.5*/Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard 63g 

3W - 07 Burner TP TS/Mitsubishi Diamana Blueboard 73g

2h - Razr Tour/Aldila NV Hybrid 85

3h - Diablo Edge Tour/Motore Speeder Tour Spec 9.8 HB

5-7 - P790/KBS C-Taper 120

8-PW - P770/KBS C-Taper 120

50* - Nike Engage 

54* - Nike VR Forged 

60* - Nike VR Forged

P - Nike Method Origin B2-01 Naked

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[quote name='elchene' date='19 February 2010 - 03:29 PM' timestamp='1266614959' post='2263123']
Thanks everybody. Hit the MX-300s today with a Nippon shaft! They look great, and feel great, what more can I ask for??

Diablo Forged seemed pretty nice too, but I'm feeling the Mizuno right now.
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You can't go wrong with the 300's IMO and I am with you on the feeling Mizuno right now. Although I love my I-701's I have been dying to get back to Mizzys and get the feeling back. I am very interested in the Nippons as well; how do they feel compared to other shafts you've hit. I like the ballflight of my PX's but the feel is pretty harsh compared to anything else. I plan on going back to Edwin Watts soon and trying the KBS Tours as well as the Nippons.

Anyway, nice sticks, I'm jealous :rolleyes:

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[quote name='DB67' date='18 February 2010 - 05:22 PM' timestamp='1266531766' post='2260818']
I have been in the same boat here for the last cpl weeks. I went with the MX300. The AP1 and 2 were really good, and I really liked the Cleveland Black Pearls. Close to MX300 in feel, IMO.

But the MX300's just feel sooo good. :)

I have never hit forged before so this is a new experience for me. Now I know what people mean by smooth. And also the feedback you get is really cool.
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[quote name='eyeguy' date='20 February 2010 - 07:31 AM' timestamp='1266669091' post='2264463']
Don't stress over this, file your paypal claim and they will issue a refund for product not received. They always side with the buyer for merchandise never received.


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I have been combining my black pearls with some of my CG2's in the long irons as of late with good success. Did not like the Nike soles....

Driver: To temperamental
3 wood: Callaway Razar Fit 15
5 wood: Callaway Razar Fit 18
Hybrid: Adams Pro Gold 16, 20, 24
Irons: Mizzy 825 5-pw
Wedges: Mizzy 53 GW
Putter: TPM 16 or Wilson tour special

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