TM Superfast TP Price Drop!

[Djuga06]

I'll be interested to see the new setup, but like I said before, I've noticed the stock setup to be pretty low penetrating for my swing, but we all know everyone is different. i'm slightly most concerned that the tweaking will cause it to be too low!

[phelps22]

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[quote name='bioman' date='09 June 2010 - 08:42 PM' timestamp='1276134149' post='2499588']
Well mine is gone, 8.5TP w/ RIP70X. I really liked the RIP feel, but paired with this head the ball went a little too high. With no wind, it was acceptable and the carry distances were very good. But, in the wind the ball would just climb and then die. I think the head is bit higher spin than I anticipated. For my swing the RIP just went a bit too high. I wanted to try the head in a different shaft (low launch Miyazaki), but sold the whole thing before I could just sell the shaft.
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I don't think it's the head.....I think it's the RIP, I keep reading on here from higher swing speed people that say the RIP spins a lot and launches a bit higher than they expect. I am a VERY high spin and high launch hitter that swings around 120mph and I am hitting a 9.5* head further than I have ever hit a driver. I'm not sure how the regular Superfast compares to the TP but I was getting 2200-2400rpm at 121mph on a vector monitor with ther REGULAR Superfast.
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who was saying the RIP is a high spinning high launch shaft? i think you are misreading what people are trying to say. there was this huge hype that the superdeep would launch at like 5* off the ground with like 1.5k rpms on it for whatever reason. it turned out that yes it is a great, low launching and low spinning club, but not as low as these crazy expectations that people were having before the club was released. the sd obviously comes stock with the RIP shaft, so people just inferred the same logic to the shaft.
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I'm not misreading what people are saying at all, do a search on RIP and just read what the majority of the people say, you will find a LOT of people say that it spins a lot more and launches higher than they expected it to. I am not saying it is a bad shaft at all....it is a GREAT shaft.....just not as low spin and low launch as most people hope/want it to be.
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I actually found that the RIP launched higher and spins more than I tought it would as well. I was getting about 16* of launch and 4000+ rpms in a 9.5* Superdeep.

[MG 1977]

I popped into a local store to get a dozern balls today. It was an expensive trip as I had a little time to waste and decided to try the SF TP on there new LM. I only got a ST TP a couple of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with that so far but the numbers with the SFTP made me pull the trigger. I'm a high ball hitter and don't get much roll as a rule but with the SF TP with the HD6 shaft I was still getting a decent amount of height but with low spin, around 2500rpm. the fitter said it was the perfect combo, 2500 is what they look for in a fitting and I got it 1st try with the SF TP. I went and got my ST TP with Fubuki73s and the spin rate was 3000-3500, it's now on it's way to Ebay. Can't wait to hit the course with the SFTP tomorrow.

BTW, I agree with the post above. When I got the ST TP I thought the MWT and FCT would be a great tool for me to get the driver perfectly dialed in for me but after every round I question the setup of the driver and end up tinkering with it. I have spent time on the range and on the course altering the setup but after a competative round with it I find myself getting the tool out and altering it again.

[Rockfish]

I popped into a local store to get a dozern balls today. It was an expensive trip as I had a little time to waste and decided to try the SF TP on there new LM. I only got a ST TP a couple of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with that so far but the numbers with the SFTP made me pull the trigger. I'm a high ball hitter and don't get much roll as a rule but with the SF TP with the HD6 shaft I was still getting a decent amount of height but with low spin, around 2500rpm. the fitter said it was the perfect combo, 2500 is what they look for in a fitting and I got it 1st try with the SF TP. I went and got my ST TP with Fubuki73s and the spin rate was 3000-3500, it's now on it's way to Ebay. Can't wait to hit the course with the SFTP tomorrow.

 

BTW, I agree with the post above. When I got the ST TP I thought the MWT and FCT would be a great tool for me to get the driver perfectly dialed in for me but after every round I question the setup of the driver and end up tinkering with it. I have spent time on the range and on the course altering the setup but after a competative round with it I find myself getting the tool out and altering it again.

 

 

You DO realize that without factoring in SS and launch angle info there's no way to tell if 2500 RPM is your optimal spin rate, right ?

 

I mean 2500 RPM MAY be too much or too little depending on SS and Launch.

[patrickw25]

My 8.5 with a Fubuki 73 came in today. After a bucket at the range, my initial impressions are very favorable. As an initial matter, it hides it's length very well. It's 46", but it doesn't seem that long.

The head is big, but it really doesn't look bad behind the ball (I'm not one of those people that cares what a club looks like, so long as it performs, I'm happy).

It has a nice sound. Very classic Taylormade.

Forgiveness seemed great. I really felt like I couldn't mishit it. Every ball felt solid and gave me the same solid sound.

My FT-Tour is an 8.5 with a Fubuki 73 tipped .75". I launch it at 10-11 degrees, with about 2300 rpms, at ball speeds of about 175mph. The SF seemed softer in the tip because of the lack of tipping, but the ballflight was great. I'm guessing it was launching at 12-13 degrees with similar or perhaps [i]slightly[/i] higher spin. The ball seemed to really jump off the face, taking off high and flatting out. It was definitely staying in the air longer than the FT-Tour. Unfortunately, the range was playing downwind today, so that made it a little difficult to tell whether that was perhaps why the SF seemed to be flying past the FT-Tour with ease. The true test will be when I'm hitting them both dead into a 20mph wind (the FT-Tour has already proven that it doesn't get touched by the wind). I live in Oklahoma, so performance in the wind is important.

This one may be a keeper. It seems to have a hot, forgiving face, with relatively low spin. That's something I've been looking for.

[skierbri10]

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[quote name='skierbri10' date='09 June 2010 - 03:17 PM' timestamp='1276121843' post='2499025']
How will this club improve my driving game versus my R7 460?
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Not really sure, but the R7 460 head was one of TM's highest spinning driver in a long time. The SF should be lighter, a better CG, and less spin with comparable launch angle or slightly less and a bigger sweet spot I would think with a upgraded shaft. If you liked the looks of your current driver, the Supertri or R9 460 would be the next step up from your r7 460. The main thing is the newer heads will bring the spin down from your current driver.
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Thanks for that insight. The reason I am thinking of changing out drivers is that I hit the R7 very high and I get no roll. Even in the middle of a hot dry summer I might only get 5 yds of roll. The ball will hit and sit. Kind of frustrating with a driver. I carry it 250-260 so I would hope to get a few yards past that. I do it the R7 straight though. Thanks again.

[SafariThomas]

Finally got my TMSF TP. Not overly impressed with the RIP shaft and contemplating throwing in my Kaili 60X. May be the 70g RIP is too much shaft for 105 SS. Any one tried this combo?

[leeshope]

i agree about the rip shaft. i tested the rip and the fubuki in the sftp and the fubuki felt so much better. thats what i ordered and hit it great whether or not i swing at it hard or smooth. give it a try and see.

[boycer]

I was wondering about the SF TP, it seems to have gotten pretty quite compared to previous activity.

I hit the RIP in my Supertri today, wasn't for me either. Trying a Fubuki 63 tomorrow instead. Think I am going to try and pick up a SF TP HD6.

[northgolf]

[quote name='leeshope' date='18 June 2010 - 11:10 PM' timestamp='1276917032' post='2518766']
i agree about the rip shaft. i tested the rip and the fubuki in the sftp and the fubuki felt so much better. thats what i ordered and hit it great whether or not i swing at it hard or smooth. give it a try and see.


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What is the weight of the Fubuki did you go with, the 63 or the 73? I'm not strong so I would tend to go with the 63, but my tempo fits a stiff shaft and I am concerned the 63 fubuki stiff would feel more like a regular when at 46" of the SFTP design (i.e. longer = whippier).

I know I could cut down the 63 to 45", but for me that seems to go against the concept of the SF; that is, my perception of the SF is that it has a long light shaft with a light grip so you get a higher swing speed (clubhead speed? explain the difference) while having the same overall club weight.

[leeshope]

you can have them tip the shaft for you if you are worried about it feeling too whippy, and it will still play at 46, just order that way from tm. the whole lighter longer thing is a great concept up to a point. ive tested a lot of guys who swing a heavier and shorter club faster than a lighter and longer one. if your tempo is quick then then the lighter longer thing can get dicey if youare trying to be accurate as well as long. the longer lighter theme seems to work better generally for the smoother swinger but you never know til you try. i would go to your fitter and test the 63 against the 73 and see where the numbers take you. if you like the 63 but it FEELS to loose or whippy then have them tip it when you order and still have playing length at 46. i wouldnt worry about the grip weight at all, i love tm but thats geting a little too tech happy even for them. but some people buy into it, i had a guy buy a driver because the swingweight was one point power because he felt like he could swing it faster, even put him on the monitor and saw now difference but in his head that weight was going to make a big difference. proves most of this stuff is between our ears!

[luvmp57]

i got my sftp 9.5 with rip 70s stock length. it promptly kicked out my j38....... i do not think that the 70s shaft is overly stiff for a 105 ss. i swing from 102-108 routinely. this club just gives me 10-15 yds more. i really couldn't believe it at first, but so far so good.

[tennisdu]

I just ordered a Preowned SF 10.5 with [size="2"]MHD6 Stiff shaft for super cheap from Golfsmith. Can't beat the price I got, under $140 (pretax, free shipping).

I am planning on putting my current gamer (from my TM TBTP driver) shaft, [b]Whiteboard 73x[/b], into the SF 10.5 head. Haven't seen anyone revewing an aftermarket Whiteboard in this driver head, but I expect good things. I hope to recieve it next week and will post a review once I get to try it out. My current WB shaft is 45 inches and I will likely have the SW set at D-3.
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[Eynt]

I have a 9.5 coming tomorrow. Will hit the stock hd6 first but I'm thinking I'll just pull that and put in my 75 axivcore green. Will report back once I get a chance to try both shafts. Wonder how much i can sell the HD6 shaft for?

[elcantante]

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[quote name='TMBob' date='09 June 2010 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1276121572' post='2499014']
Still messing with mine......Installed an Axivcore Green 65 Purple MV Grip (U of W Huskies or LA Lakers colors) and 3 lead tape stripes at 45.25" D-5 at 318 grams

Minor range time and about 8 drives on the course on 4 holes.

Thoughts were,

1) Totally different feel when compared to the ST or any other MWT head....more muted feel
2) Seems to have a higher ball flight then my ST in the same loft
3) No real distance change on the 4 holes I played (Home Course)
4) Concerns about just how "flat" the face looks, though I did do a Credit Card test and it's not caved in, just seems super flat to my eye from the side view.
5) Nothing special to me so far and a total lack of control when compared to the ST at this point with a bit more left prone then anything.
6) Even in an 8.5 it does not sit very open at all when compared to my Tour SQ and R7 425 heads which are bent open. Same thing with the ST head in 1 degree open. The SF TP sit's square to slightly closed to me.
7) Super, Super Upright lie angle for me......sit's on the back 3rd of the sole with out a doubt. I don't think that this is a good thing for a driver for me.
8) Seems like it has more spin then the ST so far.

Axivcore was pulled last night and the Devo 6 is now ready to go

More thoughts to come as I just installed a Devo 6 which is the same shaft that is in my ST. Same length, same tipping, but the spine came out a tad different......ST at 7 o'clock and the SF at 5 o'clock.

Devo specs are GP TV grip, 45.25", D-4 and 322 grams

This should tell me more about the SF TP head vs the ST head 100%......I am guessing that the ST is going to win for many reasons, but time will tell is the SF fit's me or not. My main concerns are going to be control, spin and lie.

Let's the games begin.......TMBob
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Thanks Bob:

Keep the updates coming.

Ordered my Superfast TP 8.5º / RIP 70X yesterday. Can't wait to get it and compare it to my Supertri TP 8.5º / HD6X.

The Supertri has been Fantastic for me. The Superfast TP is going to have to be a pretty special club to kick the Supertri out of the bag.
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What is your swing speed for the HD6 in X. I hit one HD6 is X stiff and I was able to handle it. I also like the feel. My swing speed ranges from 100-108mph. There was no Stiff HD6 to try. Does HD6 play softer in the ST TP?

[jol]

Any one go from a R9 460 to the SF TP?
Curious how they compare, distance, trajectory, rec?
Same brand of shafts and lofts?

[FOOTJOY16]

[quote name='TMBob' date='09 June 2010 - 05:12 PM' timestamp='1276121572' post='2499014']
Still messing with mine......Installed an Axivcore Green 65 Purple MV Grip (U of W Huskies or LA Lakers colors) and 3 lead tape stripes at 45.25" D-5 at 318 grams

Minor range time and about 8 drives on the course on 4 holes.

Thoughts were,

1) Totally different feel when compared to the ST or any other MWT head....more muted feel
2) Seems to have a higher ball flight then my ST in the same loft
3) No real distance change on the 4 holes I played (Home Course)
4) Concerns about just how "flat" the face looks, though I did do a Credit Card test and it's not caved in, just seems super flat to my eye from the side view.
5) Nothing special to me so far and a total lack of control when compared to the ST at this point with a bit more left prone then anything.
6) Even in an 8.5 it does not sit very open at all when compared to my Tour SQ and R7 425 heads which are bent open. Same thing with the ST head in 1 degree open. The SF TP sit's square to slightly closed to me.
7) Super, Super Upright lie angle for me......sit's on the back 3rd of the sole with out a doubt. I don't think that this is a good thing for a driver for me.
8) Seems like it has more spin then the ST so far.

Axivcore was pulled last night and the Devo 6 is now ready to go

More thoughts to come as I just installed a Devo 6 which is the same shaft that is in my ST. Same length, same tipping, but the spine came out a tad different......ST at 7 o'clock and the SF at 5 o'clock.

Devo specs are GP TV grip, 45.25", D-4 and 322 grams

This should tell me more about the SF TP head vs the ST head 100%......I am guessing that the ST is going to win for many reasons, but time will tell is the SF fit's me or not. My main concerns are going to be control, spin and lie.

Let's the games begin.......TMBob
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Is it hard to get used to the shape of that head? I really want to hit one, but just can't seem to get past the looks. Thanks.

[tennisdu]

I recieved my driver and it's getting reshafted with the Whiteboard. I did get to hit the HD6 Stiff and it was a bit whippy and the shaft felt long. Not suprising as I only bought the driver for the head so I could slip the Whiteboard X-stiff into it. But the driver certainly did feel very forgiving on mishits, much more so than my Tour Burner TP.

[cmh]

anyone hit a Graphite Design DI in the SF TP head??? thanks!

[HardHatsRequired]

[quote name='tommypar72' date='18 June 2010 - 10:58 PM' timestamp='1276916338' post='2518742']
Finally got my TMSF TP. Not overly impressed with the RIP shaft and contemplating throwing in my Kaili 60X. May be the 70g RIP is too much shaft for 105 SS. Any one tried this combo?
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That's what I'm playing. My SS is just a touch higher at 110 or so, and it feels great to me, comparable to Motore F1 75g (prior favorite, second was Whiteboard) with a slightly lower launch. We probably load the shaft differently and want something different, though.

Shafts are purely preference, though.

[tennisdu]

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I recieved my driver and it's getting reshafted with the Whiteboard. I did get to hit the HD6 Stiff and it was a bit whippy and the shaft felt long. Not suprising as I only bought the driver for the head so I could slip the Whiteboard X-stiff into it. But the driver certainly did feel very forgiving on mishits, much more so than my Tour Burner TP.
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So I finally got the chance to hit the SF TP with the new shaft this weekend. As expected it was a great combo and it's staying in the bag for a long time! I put in a WB X-stiff that was 1/4 tipped with the final driver length at 45 inches. It's definitely a low spin/low launch combo which is what I really need. My trajectory was a lot more piercing and I felt as though my spin rate was lower athough I would have to get on a launch monitor to acurrately tell. I have tried the RIP in a Supertri and feel the SF with WB is stouter. All in all I am very happy with the driver/shaft combo and as a reference point the forgiveness was much better than my old driver (Tour Burner TP) which had the same WB shaft. The forgiveness of the head really sold me as the distance gain was maybe 10 yards from my previous driver.

[Evolved]

After trolling ebay for over a month I finally found a SF TP 9.5 with a Fubuki 63s. It will instantly be thrown into a steel cage death match with my FT Tour.

[NateG]

I have hit a couple hundred balls with my new SF TP 9.5 with hd6 stiff shaft and am hitting the ball very high. I don't know as much as others about shafts and was wondering what shaft would give me a lower trajectory without sacrificing the distance gain I am getting?