Padraig H - TM Woods

[InTheHole!]

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Was scrolling through the pics on Getty Images and noticed right away that P H was gaming the TM Superdeep and the TM r9 FW. Did not recall whether he gamed these clubs earlier in the season, but it sure looks like there is very little "affection" for the Wilson offerings.

[hickorysmokes]

Hey There,
I'm pretty new to the forum, but I was able to follow Padraig during the final round of the Traveler's Championship in July, and at the point he was gaming the superdeep. I'm not totally sure about the R9 FW though

[jzatl04]

Paddy is actually gaming a SuperTri TP (not SuperDeep) which he's had in the bag since the Open Championship when he had a SuperFast TP. His 3 wood was a Burner TP up until about a month ago, so I think the R9 fairway is a rather new addition. Since he's not contracted to play 14 Wilson clubs, he has a little freedom and has used TM, Callaway, and Titelist drivers in the last few years as well as a few different Odyssey putters.

[mozgolf]

Funny old thing that, won his majors with the Wilson "garbage", has lost a bit of form so its a new driver every other week....

[youngwaldo]

I can see him as a TM Staffer.

Wk

[J13]

100% its a supertri not superdeep

[Dr_evil]

I think it's a burner wood too not the R9

[carpergolf]

he's been gaming the taylormade driver and three wood all year

[slbpsi63]

He has not carried a W/S three wood since 2005/6. He was playing a Cally X series three wood for a few years, then he went to the TM burner. He has not played a Wilson Staff driver since the Smooth came out and he could not find the right combo to suit his game. He gamed the Smooth a few times, but he went to he TM Tour Burner, and now has an R9 Supertri.

[Chappie]

Yeah was about to say. Pretty sure Paddy was rocking TM when he won his majors.

[luckycharms1810]

He used a Wilson DD6+ driver with a Grafalloy prolite shaft when he won his 3 majors.

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Top pic 2008 USPGA, middle pic 2007 Open championship and bottom pic 2008 Open Championship.

Considering he is struggling to hit fairways maybe he should go back to this driver!!!!!!!!!

[Smoothduffer]

[quote name='luckycharms1810' timestamp='1285346169' post='2712216']
He used a Wilson DD6+ driver with a Grafalloy prolite shaft when he won his 3 majors.

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Top pic 2008 USPGA, middle pic 2007 Open championship and bottom pic 2008 Open Championship.

Considering he is struggling to hit fairways maybe he should go back to this driver!!!!!!!!!
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my thoughts exactly........funny how those Wilson Staff drivers where good enuff to win 3 majors but some people get on here and talk about Wilson Staff like they are junk.......the fybrid pretty much locked Carnoustie up for him with that 200 and something yarder that he stuck on the green.....does nobody remember that.....and all the great saves he made with th TW series wedges......its true that he doesnt game a W/S driver at the moment but last time i checked there are a whole lot of other pros out there that use clubs that doesnt have their sponsers name on it either,plenty of them......Harrington had his pick of the litter when his contract was up and he chose Wilson Staff all over again so if he wanted to go to T.M.,Calleway,Titliest,or anybody else he would have....W/S's new better players Driver and woods are comung out soon along with the FG Tour wedges and Vizor putters.....so lets see what he is gaming next year,he will probably stay with Odyssey putters but i would not be suprised at all if everything else was W/S.....I have the Smooth driver and i play with guys all the time with new T.M.'s,Titliest's,Callaway's and all the other names out there and i outdrive everyone of them 95% of the time,325yds down the fairway baby and im not good enuff to be driving the ball like that if my driver was crap......trust me it is just as good as any of the other companies,i can prove it....but the Smooth is more of a game improvment driver desighned more for straightness than distance and that is the only driver option they have out right now until the DXI drivers come out.....so i would say that is why Harrington doesnt use it but wait till the DXI comes out and see what he is swinging then......every club in my bag except my 3-wood is W/S and they are just as good as what is in the peoples bags that get on here and bash them....just ask the guys whose ball i drive my ball over all the time.....hate on Wilson Staff all you want but they are back and they are not going anywere:smilie_wilson:

[Pablito Woods]

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[quote name='luckycharms1810' timestamp='1285346169' post='2712216']
He used a Wilson DD6+ driver with a Grafalloy prolite shaft when he won his 3 majors.

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Top pic 2008 USPGA, middle pic 2007 Open championship and bottom pic 2008 Open Championship.

Considering he is struggling to hit fairways maybe he should go back to this driver!!!!!!!!!
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my thoughts exactly........funny how those Wilson Staff drivers where good enuff to win 3 majors but some people get on here and talk about Wilson Staff like they are junk.......the fybrid pretty much locked Carnoustie up for him with that 200 and something yarder that he stuck on the green.....does nobody remember that.....and all the great saves he made with th TW series wedges......its true that he doesnt game a W/S driver at the moment but last time i checked there are a whole lot of other pros out there that use clubs that doesnt have their sponsers name on it either,plenty of them......Harrington had his pick of the litter when his contract was up and he chose Wilson Staff all over again so if he wanted to go to T.M.,Calleway,Titliest,or anybody else he would have....W/S's new better players Driver and woods are comung out soon along with the FG Tour wedges and Vizor putters.....so lets see what he is gaming next year,he will probably stay with Odyssey putters but i would not be suprised at all if everything else was W/S.....I have the Smooth driver and i play with guys all the time with new T.M.'s,Titliest's,Callaway's and all the other names out there and i outdrive everyone of them 95% of the time,325yds down the fairway baby and im not good enuff to be driving the ball like that if my driver was crap......trust me it is just as good as any of the other companies,i can prove it....but the Smooth is more of a game improvment driver desighned more for straightness than distance and that is the only driver option they have out right now until the DXI drivers come out.....so i would say that is why Harrington doesnt use it but wait till the DXI comes out and see what he is swinging then......every club in my bag except my 3-wood is W/S and they are just as good as what is in the peoples bags that get on here and bash them....just ask the guys whose ball i drive my ball over all the time.....hate on Wilson Staff all you want but they are back and they are not going anywere:smilie_wilson:
[/quote]
Great post! Haven't thought about him using the Wilson woods to win the majors, but it's true! Especially his 5 wood shot like you mentioned- such a key shot. I agree- right now I have slightly used FG-51s with S300s I got on Ebay for $150 in good condition! They came out before I was born, but I know a nice blade when I see one. If only I were more consistent, but it fits my profile with my good swing. Absolutely great irons. I love the new FG-62s also, and those FG-59s have been one of my favs for so long now! If I had money to get new irons, it'd be the new Nikes or one of the Wilson blades. With the right shaft the Wilson woods can be really good I'm guessing, and those new DXI woods sound nice. Can't wait to see them soon hopefully.

[Smoothduffer]

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[quote name='Smoothduffer' timestamp='1285383237' post='2712995']
[quote name='luckycharms1810' timestamp='1285346169' post='2712216']
He used a Wilson DD6+ driver with a Grafalloy prolite shaft when he won his 3 majors.

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Top pic 2008 USPGA, middle pic 2007 Open championship and bottom pic 2008 Open Championship.

Considering he is struggling to hit fairways maybe he should go back to this driver!!!!!!!!!
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my thoughts exactly........funny how those Wilson Staff drivers where good enuff to win 3 majors but some people get on here and talk about Wilson Staff like they are junk.......the fybrid pretty much locked Carnoustie up for him with that 200 and something yarder that he stuck on the green.....does nobody remember that.....and all the great saves he made with th TW series wedges......its true that he doesnt game a W/S driver at the moment but last time i checked there are a whole lot of other pros out there that use clubs that doesnt have their sponsers name on it either,plenty of them......Harrington had his pick of the litter when his contract was up and he chose Wilson Staff all over again so if he wanted to go to T.M.,Calleway,Titliest,or anybody else he would have....W/S's new better players Driver and woods are comung out soon along with the FG Tour wedges and Vizor putters.....so lets see what he is gaming next year,he will probably stay with Odyssey putters but i would not be suprised at all if everything else was W/S.....I have the Smooth driver and i play with guys all the time with new T.M.'s,Titliest's,Callaway's and all the other names out there and i outdrive everyone of them 95% of the time,325yds down the fairway baby and im not good enuff to be driving the ball like that if my driver was crap......trust me it is just as good as any of the other companies,i can prove it....but the Smooth is more of a game improvment driver desighned more for straightness than distance and that is the only driver option they have out right now until the DXI drivers come out.....so i would say that is why Harrington doesnt use it but wait till the DXI comes out and see what he is swinging then......every club in my bag except my 3-wood is W/S and they are just as good as what is in the peoples bags that get on here and bash them....just ask the guys whose ball i drive my ball over all the time.....hate on Wilson Staff all you want but they are back and they are not going anywere:smilie_wilson:
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Great post! Haven't thought about him using the Wilson woods to win the majors, but it's true! Especially his 5 wood shot like you mentioned- such a key shot. I agree- right now I have slightly used FG-51s with S300s I got on Ebay for $150 in good condition! They came out before I was born, but I know a nice blade when I see one. If only I were more consistent, but it fits my profile with my good swing. Absolutely great irons. I love the new FG-62s also, and those FG-59s have been one of my favs for so long now! If I had money to get new irons, it'd be the new Nikes or one of the Wilson blades. With the right shaft the Wilson woods can be really good I'm guessing, and those new DXI woods sound nice. Can't wait to see them soon hopefully.
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thanx pablodiablo....i appreciate the compliments,but yeah it irks me to no end how people that have probably never hit a ball with any of the new Wilson Staff clubs(and im talking about the staff line not the Wilson clubs,its like 2 different companies) always think it is their duty to get on here and bash them over and over again.....i play teir stuff everytime out and like you luv tour FG-51's i luv all of my W/s stuff and i know how good it is....BTW the new DXI driver and woods vizor putter the FG-61's and FG tour wedges will be out early 2011 i think and the clubs that will soon be in my bag the DI11's will be out in october,im so excited....im thinking bout starting this thread....It looks like Taylormade sponsored Brian Gay has no luv for his T.M.'s:since he has a full set of Mizzuno irons....A Tour Edge Exotics 3-wood.....a Bettinardi putter......and 2 Titliest Vokey wedges...hahahaha....looks like hes taking applications for a new sponsor....and that was literally the first Taylormade sponsored player i looked up.......see guys there are all kinds of players on tour that play stuff other than their sponsors.....and he has a whole lot more unsponsored clubs than a driver ,3-wood and putter.....think about that the next time you want to start a thread like this.....and BTW Wilson Staff has 61 majors won with their irons......that is more than anybody else.....period.

[Mattro]

I was on staff with Wilson Staff when I was a club pro, and they're stuff is just as good if not better than any of the other big names. Padraig will always be a Wilson Staff guy if I had to bet any money on it. I believe if I'm not mistaken that he may own a piece of the golf side of the company. May be totally wrong there but I know for a fact they take his personal input in the making of their new equipment. Notice the new DXi driver looks kinda similar to his old DD6+. I still to this day, even though not on staff with Wilson Staff any longer, play every club of theirs in my bag, minus the 3wd.(just tough to beat a sonartec) I think if Wilson Staff spent the money to have players play their stuff they could be every bit as big as the other guys. But if you have a good product, you don't have to talk about it for people to know and hear about it.

[Smoothduffer]

[quote name='Mattro' timestamp='1285392880' post='2713163']
I was on staff with Wilson Staff when I was a club pro, and they're stuff is just as good if not better than any of the other big names. Padraig will always be a Wilson Staff guy if I had to bet any money on it. I believe if I'm not mistaken that he may own a piece of the golf side of the company. May be totally wrong there but I know for a fact they take his personal input in the making of their new equipment. Notice the new DXi driver looks kinda similar to his old DD6+. I still to this day, even though not on staff with Wilson Staff any longer, play every club of theirs in my bag, minus the 3wd.(just tough to beat a sonartec) I think if Wilson Staff spent the money to have players play their stuff they could be every bit as big as the other guys. But if you have a good product, you don't have to talk about it for people to know and hear about it.
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i agree completely.....glad to see someone with alot more experiance and talent than me sticking up for W/S......and still playing their stuff even tho you arent on their staff anymore:clapping: ........BTW your bag is alot like mine with everything being W/S except the 3-wood......i may get the DXI 3-wood tho not real sure yet cause i really do like my Cleveland launcher.......but anyway good post

[Mattro]

I currently play the TW wedges but am not a big fan, hence I game an older lob wedge and am looking for the matching sand wedge. I am really hoping though that the new FG wedges are the real deal. I thought I read on here that they were going to be available in November, maybe wrong though. Thinking about trying to play in a few qualifiers and would love to step inside the Wilson Staff van and see whats going on in there.

[Dizz]

Bottom line is I don't think anybody cares what Padraig is playing. Not saying Wilson doesn't make good clubs but they have a lot of work to do to make their name in golf again. I work in a shop and never once heard anyone ask about Wilson clubs even after Paddy won 3 majors.

[Mattro]

Like I said, if they wanted to be a big name and pay people like the big names do to play their stuff then they would. Despite what people think, they have plenty of money for it. They choose not to because they are content making great quality products and the best part about it is......... they are more affordable. Granted some of their stuff is expensive, the FG-59's are still to this day a bit pricey, but usually you can save $200-$300 on a brand new set of sticks. And there is certainly nothing wrong with getting a Tour quality club at a lower price. Wilson Staff has just kinda been lost here in the USA, they are big in Europe and Asia. The main problem is people don't realize or can't figure out that Wilson and Wilson Staff are basically 2 separate entities.

[Smoothduffer]

thats a good point about how they dont have alot of players on tour so they can keep the prices down.iv wondered why they dont spend the advertising dollars and the money to pay tour players because i figured despite what people say they have to have plenty of money,probably more than anybody.cause they arent just a golf company they are a huge conglomerate making sports equipment from golf clubs to the number 1 tennis rackets in proffesional tennis to MLB gloves to the official NCAA basketballs and NFL gameballs also.thats what makes it even more frustrating when people say they make crappy golf clubs but its widely known how great all of their other sports equipment is and on top of that they have 61 majors in golf,just very confusing to me why people think their golf clubs arent any good.

[floyd]

I know he use to play the 07 Burner for awhile.

[Dizz]

So they could be a big player in the golf market and have the money to do so but just choose not to? Makes no sense to me. And wait they do this simply to keep their prices down? Well it doesn't matter what their prices are if they don't sell clubs.

[Smoothduffer]

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So they could be a big player in the golf market and have the money to do so but just choose not to? Makes no sense to me. And wait they do this simply to keep their prices down? Well it doesn't matter what their prices are if they don't sell clubs.
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Well they are big in europe and other places so they sell plenty of clubs,if people would quit getting on sites like this and making stupid threads like this one,then there would not be this perception out there that they dont make quality stuff.And then people would start trying their stuff out and seeing how good it is,instead of not even thinking about W/S because uneducated people bash them down when they havent even tried their stuff.People here in the states only want to play what tiger,phil,rory,or some of the other tour stars play,but people overseas actually get out and try different stuff till they find what works,and they are smart enuff to know that Wilson Staff is not the same as Wilson,they dont even make them in the same building and i know that for a fact.Do me a favor go out and try some of their new clubs and then you can make some observations,but until then keep it to yourself because you have no clue what you are talking about.I would put my bag up against anyones on here and i can promise you that your stuff isnt better quality than mine,i garauntee it.

[Smoothduffer]

[quote name='InTheHole!' timestamp='1285297202' post='2711547']
Was scrolling through the pics on Getty Images and noticed right away that P H was gaming the TM Superdeep and the TM r9 FW. Did not recall whether he gamed these clubs earlier in the season, but it sure looks like there is very little "affection" for the Wilson offerings.
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Why dont you start a thread about all the players on tour that use equipment not made by their sponsor,i garautee you that there are plenty of them out there.There are plenty of T.M. staffers that play other stuff,like Brian Gay having a set of Mizuno irons 3-pw,a tour edge exotics 3-wood,2 vokey wedges,and a Bettinardi putter.How about starting a thread on that,My bag is full of W/S and it is just as good if not better than what is in your bag.

[Dizz]

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[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1285420756' post='2713341']
So they could be a big player in the golf market and have the money to do so but just choose not to? Makes no sense to me. And wait they do this simply to keep their prices down? Well it doesn't matter what their prices are if they don't sell clubs.
[/quote]

Well they are big in europe and other places so they sell plenty of clubs,if people would quit getting on sites like this and making stupid threads like this one,then there would not be this perception out there that they dont make quality stuff.And then people would start trying their stuff out and seeing how good it is,instead of not even thinking about W/S because uneducated people bash them down when they havent even tried their stuff.People here in the states only want to play what tiger,phil,rory,or some of the other tour stars play,but people overseas actually get out and try different stuff till they find what works,and they are smart enuff to know that Wilson Staff is not the same as Wilson,they dont even make them in the same building and i know that for a fact.Do me a favor go out and try some of their new clubs and then you can make some observations,but until then keep it to yourself because you have no clue what you are talking about.I would put my bag up against anyones on here and i can promise you that your stuff isnt better quality than mine,i garauntee it.
[/quote]

No sir, you have no idea what YOU are talking about. For one I never said Wilson staff weren't on par with other big OEM'S. I've hit a lot of their newer product, the irons and wedges are solid. The woods are OK too I wouldn't use them but they aren't unusable. Bottom line is your previous post couldn't be any more false, Wilson Staff does not have the money, R&D, whatever else to compete with Titleist, TM, Callaway, Ping. I think it says enough that their only two high level professionals do not use their woods. Are they good? Sure, great? Maybe to you and a handful of others. Plenty of people on here have hit their product and have an opinion just because we don't agree with yours doesn't mean we need to keep to ourselves.

So again, your opinion makes zero sense. IF they had the money to compete in the US they would but they don't. Go into proshops and see how much Wilson is in stock. Our shop had iron sets 3-4 years old go unsold and we stopped carrying their product for stock about 3 years ago. Not a single person has asked about them.

[Smoothduffer]

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[quote name='Smoothduffer' timestamp='1285435633' post='2713589']
[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1285420756' post='2713341']
So they could be a big player in the golf market and have the money to do so but just choose not to? Makes no sense to me. And wait they do this simply to keep their prices down? Well it doesn't matter what their prices are if they don't sell clubs.
[/quote]

Well they are big in europe and other places so they sell plenty of clubs,if people would quit getting on sites like this and making stupid threads like this one,then there would not be this perception out there that they dont make quality stuff.And then people would start trying their stuff out and seeing how good it is,instead of not even thinking about W/S because uneducated people bash them down when they havent even tried their stuff.People here in the states only want to play what tiger,phil,rory,or some of the other tour stars play,but people overseas actually get out and try different stuff till they find what works,and they are smart enuff to know that Wilson Staff is not the same as Wilson,they dont even make them in the same building and i know that for a fact.Do me a favor go out and try some of their new clubs and then you can make some observations,but until then keep it to yourself because you have no clue what you are talking about.I would put my bag up against anyones on here and i can promise you that your stuff isnt better quality than mine,i garauntee it.
[/quote]

No sir, you have no idea what YOU are talking about. For one I never said Wilson staff weren't on par with other big OEM'S. I've hit a lot of their newer product, the irons and wedges are solid. The woods are OK too I wouldn't use them but they aren't unusable. Bottom line is your previous post couldn't be any more false, Wilson Staff does not have the money, R&D, whatever else to compete with Titleist, TM, Callaway, Ping. I think it says enough that their only two high level professionals do not use their woods. Are they good? Sure, great? Maybe to you and a handful of others. Plenty of people on here have hit their product and have an opinion just because we don't agree with yours doesn't mean we need to keep to ourselves.

So again, your opinion makes zero sense. IF they had the money to compete in the US they would but they don't. Go into proshops and see how much Wilson is in stock. Our shop had iron sets 3-4 years old go unsold and we stopped carrying their product for stock about 3 years ago. Not a single person has asked about them.
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I didnt say you said they werent on par with them,i was talking about who started this thread.And i can garauntee you they have the money to compete with them,they are a sports conglomerate so obviously they have plenty of money.And i have no problem finding their stuff where i live its in proshops everywhere and recommended in those proshops.Check out Edwinn Watts they carry all of their new stuff.And we will see what their proffesionals are using when the DXI woods come out.Harrington used tier drivers till the smooth come out,and like i said it is a game improvement driver not a better players driver so that is why they dont game it,not because its not good because it is very good,i can very much prove it to you.It wasnt my opinion that they dont compete bcause they choose not to,learn to read buddy.But it does make very good sense

[Smoothduffer]

And yes you do need to keep your uneducated opinions to yourself.

[Dizz]

[quote name='Smoothduffer' timestamp='1285438884' post='2713626']
And yes you do need to keep your uneducated opinions to yourself.
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I've hit their clubs, my opinions are first hand. As far as having money, I'm not their accountant but I can only imagine if they had the money to compete in the US market they would have made an effort to do so. As far as playing game improvement drivers...funny almost all of PING's staffing pros play their game improvement models in the driver. I think there is one i15 in play. Same with TM...far, far more Superfasts than Superdeeps in play.

[albatrosser]

for the life of me I will NEVER understand why some people get on here and whine about how people perceive the clubs that they play.

If you like what you're playing, why do you care what someone else thinks about it? I have a whole bag of Adam's stuff. I still play the 9015D and hit it better than any driver I've ever played. I switched from a tour issue TM 3 wd. to the Adams Fast 10 and wish I'd done it much sooner. The guys I play with turn their noses up at my Adam's bag full of Adam's clubs, but I take their money every single week.

Get over caring what others say about the equipment manufacturer that you choose to play. It's old, and it's childish.

[Smoothduffer]

i guess you are right albatrosser,it shouldnt bother me..........but it does anyway.