Ryan Moore with Ping irons (merged)

[adam10]

at the CIMB Asia Pacific Classic

saw two pictures on yahoo, the first has him hitting a club with a ping grip, the second is clearly a ping iron.

anyone have any insight?

[oaklandgolfer]

Probably a picture from 4 or 5 years ago. He was a Ping man before his independent days and Scratch days.

[tbarr15]

Looks like a Ping Iron to me...the new S-56?

[J13]

wow real shocker, guess he's not happy with scratch irons. That's def a new picture I mean he's wearing a new scratch hat lol. Not good for scratch.

[varsityhacker]

Interesting, I wonder why? But, definitely a Ping iron.

[J13]

[quote name='varsityhacker' timestamp='1288268549' post='2763082']
Interesting, I wonder why? But, definitely a Ping iron.
[/quote]


My guess is the tech in the club. Lets be honest the benenfits of new tech doesn't even exist at Scratch (at this point). They are probably 10 years behind. Now if your talking about blades that's another story.

[sem i3]

Dont know about the irons, but that outfit sure looks stupid.
[quote name='tbarr15' timestamp='1288268370' post='2763079']
Looks like a Ping Iron to me...the new S-56?
[/quote]

[TheBoomer]

Matt,

Can I have your "DW Low Bounce NO DIG" WEDGES ?




Mike. B

[scotto69]

Am I the only one seeing little boxes with letters and numbers instead of a normal paragraph from Matt@scratch?

[DieHard519]

He's trying way too hard with those ties. I wonder what it's like to stand at address with a tie hanging in your line of sight.

[TheBoomer]

[quote name='varsityhacker' timestamp='1288272212' post='2763139']
[quote name='King Kobra' timestamp='1288270403' post='2763109']
Next thing you know he's going to be wearing some FJ Icons. Good to see he put the Adams driver back in play. Money talks, b s runs a marathon.
[/quote]

Interesting reply coming from a Scratch rep, care to elaborate on the money talks, bs runs a marathon part of your post.
[/quote]


I don't think "King Kobra" is a Scratch Rep.

MB

[gators78]

Sick, I just ordered the S56s

Also, Ryan needs to take a few classes in business because it looks completely terrible when you have any mold/grind at your disposal at Scratch (and Don White), which btw you're a part owner, and he goes back to the Ping irons. IT'S ABOUT THE BRAND BRO.

[EastPhillyReppin]

Ryan likes to tinker and it is not in his contract that he has to play our irons. Ryan is still under contract with scratch golf.

[Jimmy Mac]

Has it been about one year since he signed with Scratch? Wondering if he had a one year contract that's now up.

Could be using Ping because:

A. Switching to something else between contracts might strengthen his contract negotiation with Scratch/whoever.

B. Ping may have signed him to a more lucrative contract, still wears the Scratch hat since he probably received an ownership percentage as part of his contract and wants to promo the company via headgear while still pocketing Ping's big money for playing their clubs. Most TV viewers assume the hat matches the clubs.

C. Ping just works better for him and he wants to win more than he wants to promote Scratch.

D. He actually IS playing Scratch, they hired Scotty Cameron's design guru who mastered the knock-off of Anser putters to create a S-56 knock-off that's milled instead of cast.

[Arafel]

[quote name='J13' timestamp='1288268845' post='2763087']
[quote name='varsityhacker' timestamp='1288268549' post='2763082']
Interesting, I wonder why? But, definitely a Ping iron.
[/quote]


My guess is the tech in the club. Lets be honest the benenfits of new tech doesn't even exist at Scratch (at this point). They are probably 10 years behind. Now if your talking about blades that's another story.
[/quote]

New tech? What exactly are you talking about?

[gators78]

[quote name='ScratchiT' timestamp='1288273824' post='2763165']
Ryan likes to tinker and it is not in his contract that he has to play our irons. Ryan is still under contract with scratch golf.
[/quote]

I'm sure he is still under contract if he has a shareholder stake in the company, but last I checked Steve Jobs isn't walking around with a Zune.

Kidding aside, this just looks like he's maintaining a clothes/wedge relationship with Scratch and his bag is TBD for each tournament.

[Pepperturbo]

[quote name='varsityhacker' timestamp='1288268549' post='2763082']
Interesting, I wonder why? But, definitely a Ping iron.
[/quote]

Some tour players have fickle moments, regularly trying this or that. It doesn't mean they are unhappy with their current clubs.

[ml43]

maybe his bag got delayed/lost on the plane

happens all the time to my friend in college

[Jimmy Mac]

[quote name='JASONR5' timestamp='1288274149' post='2763177']


New tech? What exactly are you talking about?
[/quote]



Not as though Scratch doesn't have access to making clubs of the type and you could certainly debate the legitimacy/value of the technologies but compared to a blade, the PIngs have:

Multimaterial Heads, Tungsten Toe Weighting
Polymer Custom Tuning Port (I have no idea what that's really supposed to do, but is is tech)
Cavity back
More extreme perimeter weighting
Probably a ton more time in computer materials analysis.
Probably a lot more PGA player feedback.

There is a lot more tech in the Ping clubs...again, I don't know that it really makes them any better.

I would rather own a handmade, 50's vintage Porsche than a brand new new BMW M3, but if you asked me which one would win a race, I'd be betting on the Beemer.

[Pepperturbo]

[quote name='J13' timestamp='1288268845' post='2763087']
[quote name='varsityhacker' timestamp='1288268549' post='2763082']
Interesting, I wonder why? But, definitely a Ping iron.
[/quote]


My guess is the tech in the club. Lets be honest the benenfits of new tech doesn't even exist at Scratch (at this point). They are probably 10 years behind. Now if your talking about blades that's another story.
[/quote]

Interesting statement - one that I don't agree with. Although Pings best S56 head is appealing to the eye, it's nothing special for game enhancement. Making contemporary MB's or CB's is no longer rocket science for any OEM, thanks to CAD, and improved offshore manufacturing facilities. Ten years??? be more specific...

[Pepperturbo]

[quote name='Jimmy Mac' timestamp='1288275250' post='2763209']

I would rather own a handmade, 50's vintage Porsche than a brand new new BMW M3, but if you asked me which one would win a race, I'd be betting on the Beemer.
[/quote]

Apples and oranges - vintage bathtub P-car is worth maybe 2 or 3 M3's.... however the M3 is beyond a 50's P-car when it comes to technology.

[Judge440]

[quote name='oaklandgolfer' timestamp='1288267740' post='2763070']
Probably a picture from 4 or 5 years ago. He was a Ping man before his independent days and Scratch days.
[/quote]

He's wearing a Scratch hat.

[Dizz]

This really is a non-issue, the guy changes clubs every single tournament. This is the same guy that's used about 10 different Scratch sets this season for different tournaments. Same guy that's used probably 50 different putters including the purchase of a $59 Tiger Shark before the Masters. Woods are another story as well.

[moonshine]

[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1288276958' post='2763257']
This really is a non-issue, the guy changes clubs every single tournament. This is the same guy that's used about 10 different Scratch sets this season for different tournaments. Same guy that's used probably 50 different putters including the purchase of a $59 Tiger Shark before the Masters. Woods are another story as well.
[/quote]
I'm with Dizz. Guy could have career ending injury tomorrow. He is trying to do the best he can, and I would too! Not an issue and I'm sure poking Scratch about it is useless.

[Huntingchris0000]

He probably ordered some new clubs from them and they are waiting on their shipment from asia or wherever they get them from You know how many problems they have getting clubs in the hands of people after the order maybe it is truly a problem all the way to the top.

[hogans71]

[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1288276958' post='2763257']
This really is a non-issue, the guy changes clubs every single tournament. This is the same guy that's used about 10 different Scratch sets this season for different tournaments. Same guy that's used probably 50 different putters including the purchase of a $59 Tiger Shark before the Masters. Woods are another story as well.
[/quote]

I dont profess to know what type of equipment junkie RM is, but isnt playing another manufacturer's clubs far different than playing numerous sets from the very company he has a vested interest in? Just wondering...

[asualum]

[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1288276958' post='2763257']
This really is a non-issue, the guy changes clubs every single tournament. This is the same guy that's used about 10 different Scratch sets this season for different tournaments. Same guy that's used probably 50 different putters including the purchase of a $59 Tiger Shark before the Masters. Woods are another story as well.
[/quote]

Well said. The only thing saving him from himself is the inability to change mid-round. I like the fact that he tinkers. Makes me feel normal - and I have a Tiger Shark in the garage, too.

[jmorr81]

Ryan Moore can tinker all he wants, but in my opinion it should be done during his personal rounds where there are no cameras. Imagine if Phil or Tiger were seen at a tourney with Titleist MBs in their bag. I'm sure that wouldn't go over real well with the execs at Nike and Callaway.

[Sooner1]

Ari do you have a comment? I know you watch the boards and would be interested in your opinion. It doesn't look good at all but maybe he just needed something to get him going from a ball strikeing perspective. I think what he did with Scratch is a great story and hopefully he'll be back to using their irons soon.

[vjswing]

Having an ownership stake in the company puts R. Moore in a much more flexible position than he would be as a contracted employee of that company.