Nunchuck Shaft in an R11

[rlheiman]

[quote name='JohnMar' timestamp='1305131160' post='3225100']
Where are you ordering these from?
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You can get them right off the Nventix website the designers of the Nunchuck.

[tbowles411]

Wait a minute. No flex and 104g? Wouldn't this be a bit heavy???

[rlheiman]

It doesn't feel heavy because it is counterbalanced. But yes static weight, it is heavy. It also CPMs at like 309.

It is just different from other shafts. Women hit it well, just as do LD guys. It is about as surprising as it gets. But the results in the middle of the fairway speak for themselves.

[tbowles411]

[quote name='rlheiman' timestamp='1305133260' post='3225198']
It doesn't feel heavy because it is counterbalanced. But yes static weight, it is heavy. It also CPMs at like 309.

It is just different from other shafts. Women hit it well, just as do LD guys. It is about as surprising as it gets. But the results in the middle of the fairway speak for themselves.
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Well OK then...I might have to sample one. It's just a strange departure from what I've grown to know. I'm using a R11 with a XCon5 in it and about 20g of headweight and a SF 2.0 with a Code 6 in it. It will definately help with tempo that's for sure. Do you find that to be the case?

[rlheiman]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1305133468' post='3225215']
[quote name='rlheiman' timestamp='1305133260' post='3225198']
It doesn't feel heavy because it is counterbalanced. But yes static weight, it is heavy. It also CPMs at like 309.

It is just different from other shafts. Women hit it well, just as do LD guys. It is about as surprising as it gets. But the results in the middle of the fairway speak for themselves.
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Well OK then...I might have to sample one. It's just a strange departure from what I've grown to know. I'm using a R11 with a XCon5 in it and about 20g of headweight and a SF 2.0 with a Code 6 in it. It will definately help with tempo that's for sure. Do you find that to be the case?
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Yes, I've found my tempo is better with this shaft. Weight I think is the key to that. It is hard to believe this single flex tank could work for everyone, but the results just speak for themselves.

[BlakeBstone]

[quote name='rlheiman' timestamp='1305134844' post='3225279']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1305133468' post='3225215']
[quote name='rlheiman' timestamp='1305133260' post='3225198']
It doesn't feel heavy because it is counterbalanced. But yes static weight, it is heavy. It also CPMs at like 309.

It is just different from other shafts. Women hit it well, just as do LD guys. It is about as surprising as it gets. But the results in the middle of the fairway speak for themselves.
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Well OK then...I might have to sample one. It's just a strange departure from what I've grown to know. I'm using a R11 with a XCon5 in it and about 20g of headweight and a SF 2.0 with a Code 6 in it. It will definately help with tempo that's for sure. Do you find that to be the case?
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Yes, I've found my tempo is better with this shaft. Weight I think is the key to that. It is hard to believe this single flex tank could work for everyone, but the results just speak for themselves.
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not everyone. I demoed one the other day that my fitter had in a 9064ls (same head i play) i hit nothing but low 30 yard pushes and i am a high draw player. I am a +2 with 115mph ss and this thing felt like swinging a 4x4 post for me. I'll stick with my 73x WB.

[NWS Alpine]

[quote name='BlakeBstone' timestamp='1305136593' post='3225372']
[quote name='rlheiman' timestamp='1305134844' post='3225279']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1305133468' post='3225215']
[quote name='rlheiman' timestamp='1305133260' post='3225198']
It doesn't feel heavy because it is counterbalanced. But yes static weight, it is heavy. It also CPMs at like 309.

It is just different from other shafts. Women hit it well, just as do LD guys. It is about as surprising as it gets. But the results in the middle of the fairway speak for themselves.
[/quote]
Well OK then...I might have to sample one. It's just a strange departure from what I've grown to know. I'm using a R11 with a XCon5 in it and about 20g of headweight and a SF 2.0 with a Code 6 in it. It will definately help with tempo that's for sure. Do you find that to be the case?
[/quote]

Yes, I've found my tempo is better with this shaft. Weight I think is the key to that. It is hard to believe this single flex tank could work for everyone, but the results just speak for themselves.
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not everyone. I demoed one the other day that my fitter had in a 9064ls (same head i play) i hit nothing but low 30 yard pushes and i am a high draw player. I am a +2 with 115mph ss and this thing felt like swinging a 4x4 post for me. I'll stick with my 73x WB.
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Interesting but I first put it into a 9064ld head and it was too low launching and low spin. The head is 7.1* though so I moved it to my 910D3 and holy s*** it was completely different. Never been more impressed with a single golf club in my life. So different than what I normally expect but it works. I also have a 115 mph average. In some other reviews I noticed that some people went back to 9.5 loft from their regular 8.5 because the nunchuk launches more true to loft than other shafts since it doesn't really kick. If you have a big negative AoA this might cause some issues with the nunchuk,

[BlakeBstone]

no i have a +5 aoa with the driver. High ball hitter, with my 8.5 (digitally lofted at 8.7) and wb 73x i still get a LA of 15*. The shaft just felt dead to me, like i said i play a 5-10yd draw with about all my clubs and i couldnt have turned that thing over if someone had a gun to my head lol.

[rlheiman]

Can the Nunchuck really fit everyone?

Here are my thoughts are multiple rounds with these shafts

The basics: It is heavy at 103 grams, it is firm in the tip and firm in the butt end and has a soft middle. It is a universal flex. It requires no tipping, only butt trim for length. It works in driver, 3 wood and hybrid. (I’d be curious about irons shafts too, but man that would be crazy expensive). It is designed by NVentix and made by UST/Mamiya. Many of their shafts are already backweighted so it makes sense. You can kind of throw out some of the other things that are often used to describe shafts, CPM, torque, weight, flex. This shaft is simply different in so many ways it won’t necessarily spec out the way you normally would a shaft, but just hit it and see what happens.

I installed 1 in my driver and 1 in my 3-wood. I thought that they would swing weight something crazy, but they didn’t because the weight is counter balanced. Much of the extra weight is under the grip to make most club’s swingweight close to the same as the previous shaft.

So how would these tanks work out, well they shot straight bombs all day long. It is silly straight. I hit all 14 fairways the first time out, I figured it was just beginners luck. The next 4 rounds yielded similar results. Not quite perfect, I think I missed a fairway here and there but still the highest percentage of fairways I’ve ever hit.

So if fairways hit are up and it is going so straight, your probably thinking that it must be shorter. While it is not the longest shaft I’ve ever hit, it is no slouch. I think I actually averaged more distance off the tee because of how many I hit in the fairway. But in general I would say it is maybe 5 yards shorter tops. I still was getting into my usual landing zones. This really helped my scores hitting from the fairway instead of the rough or the trees.

While it is silly straight, you can still get one wild here or there, it can’t correct the face angle if that is way off. I found my misses were pushes or pulls not hooks and slices. Even when I did hit a little slice or hook, the Nunchuck will reduce the effects of side spin greatly. It really just wants to go straight.

I put my other Nunchuck in my Royal Collection 3 wood. Originally it had a lighter weight “made for” Fubuki in it that I hit pretty well, but from time to time would get loose on me. It just had a little more whip to it than I like. Dropping the Nunchcuk in this club was amazing. It instantly felt different. The results were even better too. It changed the trajectory into the perfect launching straight 3 wood.

I’m still surprised that I can give these clubs to my sister and she can hit them too and get really good results for her. There was no way you can do that with any other shaft. Anyone that uses this shaft uses the exact same shaft as the PGA pros who are using it. This isn’t a gimmick; the Nunchuck is the real deal. I can see myself buying another one for my hybrid too.

I know it is hard to buy into the hype, but this is the real deal. I would have never believed it until I saw it with my own eyes. I know everyone is asking about LM numbers, but on courses results are enough for me. If anyone is in the St. Paul, MN area, PM me and I'll let try mine.

[NWS Alpine]

Agree with everything. I put one in my 3 wood and R11 rescue this weekend and it really shines. I have never been straighter in my 3 wood and hybrid. Search for shafts is over.

[scifisicko]

When i got hold of one, the first thing that struck me was how heavy it felt for graphite, then how stiff. The uncut weight was 109g and I had no problem picking it with my eyes closed after jumbling it with a couple of 80g shafts. Bending it (not much with a lot of effort) in my hands tip to butt, i expected to see a mid bend point but what i actually saw was no bend in the butt half and a soft uniform curve from 4 inches below the mid point to the tip. Bending it with the tip hand closer to the bend point seemed to indicate that it would behave like a low kick point tip soft (relative!) shaft under a static load. Im guessing whatever mojo they have put in this thing it behaves differently under different loading conditions. The color and graphics don't suit my eye.

I installed it at 44.5 in a 8.5* ftiz tour with a 55g grip and it sw'd at D3. I think it feels heavy, however with my eyes closed i cannot reliably pick it from other ~80g shafted drivers by the static weight difference, however it does not feel overly heavy to swing. Compared to the 83g Whiteboard and 81g Talamonti it doesn't kick, but it still feels smooth and (struggling for word) lively/not dead. Compared to the Talamonti it replaces, i have lost 2 degrees of Launch, 300 RPMs of Spin and 10 yards of carry. I cant remember the landing angle but its flatter and i'm getting 7-8 yards more roll for a couple of yards less total distance. I have not lost any club head or ball speed, in fact average ball speed has gone up a touch even though maximum ball speed hasn't.

So, i now have perfect spin numbers for my ball speed but noticeably lower (too low) launch. Ive played two solid rounds with it on soft fairways with a lot of wind, ive lost around 10 yards vs maximum distance with the Talamonti or Whiteboard, which i hope to get back with a bit more launch. What i like is that my usual miss is off the heel side of center and i am banging this thing out of the middle consistently. I have been murdering it into the wind. Also had a couple of swings where i thought "watch out left" and they turned out playable (wow). All in all pretty darn impressive start to the honeymoon. Two rounds without blocking anything major to the right or losing it big left is hopefully a taste of things to come. I'm going to shove it in a 9.5* R9 and FCT around with it and see how that goes. I imagine it will boost my launch but also boost my spin. I dont really care given the way it seems to have tightened my dispersion and % of on center hits.

I swing at 110 with a slow tempo. My usual playing partner swings at 100 and he has ordered one. Dont read too much into that though as he's a ho.

[Foodnap]

I have one coming and will replace the Project X in my 910F. I had to have a couple drinks to pull the trigger without a demo and after reading this thread I am feeling a whole lot better!

[Insidious2]

[quote name='rlheiman' timestamp='1305644079' post='3241050']
Can the Nunchuck really fit everyone?

Here are my thoughts are multiple rounds with these shafts

The basics: It is heavy at 103 grams, it is firm in the tip and firm in the butt end and has a soft middle. It is a universal flex. It requires no tipping, only butt trim for length. It works in driver, 3 wood and hybrid. (I'd be curious about irons shafts too, but man that would be crazy expensive). It is designed by NVentix and made by UST/Mamiya. Many of their shafts are already backweighted so it makes sense. You can kind of throw out some of the other things that are often used to describe shafts, CPM, torque, weight, flex. This shaft is simply different in so many ways it won't necessarily spec out the way you normally would a shaft, but just hit it and see what happens.

I installed 1 in my driver and 1 in my 3-wood. I thought that they would swing weight something crazy, but they didn't because the weight is counter balanced. Much of the extra weight is under the grip to make most club's swingweight close to the same as the previous shaft.

So how would these tanks work out, well they shot straight bombs all day long. It is silly straight. I hit all 14 fairways the first time out, I figured it was just beginners luck. The next 4 rounds yielded similar results. Not quite perfect, I think I missed a fairway here and there but still the highest percentage of fairways I've ever hit.

So if fairways hit are up and it is going so straight, your probably thinking that it must be shorter. While it is not the longest shaft I've ever hit, it is no slouch. I think I actually averaged more distance off the tee because of how many I hit in the fairway. But in general I would say it is maybe 5 yards shorter tops. I still was getting into my usual landing zones. This really helped my scores hitting from the fairway instead of the rough or the trees.

While it is silly straight, you can still get one wild here or there, it can't correct the face angle if that is way off. I found my misses were pushes or pulls not hooks and slices. Even when I did hit a little slice or hook, the Nunchuck will reduce the effects of side spin greatly. It really just wants to go straight.

I put my other Nunchuck in my Royal Collection 3 wood. Originally it had a lighter weight "made for" Fubuki in it that I hit pretty well, but from time to time would get loose on me. It just had a little more whip to it than I like. Dropping the Nunchcuk in this club was amazing. It instantly felt different. The results were even better too. It changed the trajectory into the perfect launching straight 3 wood.

I'm still surprised that I can give these clubs to my sister and she can hit them too and get really good results for her. There was no way you can do that with any other shaft. Anyone that uses this shaft uses the exact same shaft as the PGA pros who are using it. This isn't a gimmick; the Nunchuck is the real deal. I can see myself buying another one for my hybrid too.

I know it is hard to buy into the hype, but this is the real deal. I would have never believed it until I saw it with my own eyes. I know everyone is asking about LM numbers, but on courses results are enough for me. If anyone is in the St. Paul, MN area, PM me and I'll let try mine.
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What head do you have it matched to? What course/range do you normally play?

[rlheiman]

Taylmade R11 9* head. I play all over the Twin Cities. Mostly on the eastside. StoneRidge, White Eagle, Mississippi Dunes, Loggers Trail Etc.

[Corsair]

Secret in the Dirt has an extensive thread on this shaft with many, many posts by the designer - Gerry Hogan. One of the things he stresses is that the shaft should be played in the 43.5 - 44 inch range . . . There is a ton of info about the shaft there.

[Kevie Ray]

[quote name='Corsair' timestamp='1312733794' post='3459047']
Secret in the Dirt has an extensive thread on this shaft with many, many posts by the designer - Gerry Hogan. One of the things he stresses is that the shaft should be played in the 43.5 - 44 inch range . . . There is a ton of info about the shaft there.
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Been playing mine for 1.5 months.
43.75"
R9 460 head
Golf pride Tour Velvet grip
D3 swingweight

been killing the ball off the tee, longer and straighter than ever before.

[Cwing]

In this thread title I see the honeymoon is over. Prior to opening teh thread I took that to mean you have lost the love for the shaft. Reading through the thread it appears this is not the case.

How would this thing work for someone with a mid 90's swing speed? How does this shaft affect ball flight? Lower than others, higher than others?

[scifisicko]

I've also found it to be super sensitive to swing weight. There is a thread on another forum where people are getting best results between d0 and d2. I normally play heavy at d5 but it doesn't work for me at this weight. It's perfect at d2.

[ej002]

Why not just use steel then? Whats the difference. Heavy as s***, no kick, low knuckleballs


Have you guys had to increase loft?

What shaft trajectory is this similar too? WB or BB?

[scifisicko]

Yeah i sometimes wonder the same thing. I still have a soft spot for my 975/x100 even though its 30g heavier, feels heavier/harsher and swing weights heavier. Nunchuk hits the ball further, just as straight and feels like swinging an 80g graphite shaft.

I haven't increased loft but have added a bit of extra spine tilt. It is similar to the x100 in that if you add spine tilt you will get a reliable corresponding amount of extra launch. Someone described the launch you get with N as like hitting every shot through a tunnel in the sky.

Out of the two comparison options offered, it is closest to a heavy WB, but it isn't similar. N doesn't have the soft butt feel/smoothness, but it is more accurate and offers better launch options and spin control than 83x WB. N seems more sensitive to length and swing weight than WB. A change of 1 SW point has a notable effect on quality of contact where there is no detectable effect of such a small change on 83xWB/G15. I suspect those with very repeatable swings would notice a change like this in WB but my pattern with N is tight groupings that move progressively from the toe to the heel as I go from D5 to D0. At D2 impact is tightly grouped right on the sweet spot and it looks like the driver has been hit by a tour pro. With WB, impact grouping is ordinary anywhere from D2-D5 and doesn't change much across the range.

I need G15 or FTiZ with WB, J33R at D2 is perfect with N. After 3 months with this shaft i am really starting to appreciate it.