tour ad di growing on tour?

[jblough99]

[quote name='schwanman' timestamp='1309789086' post='3363253']
I'm sure the 8X would launch pretty close to your whiteboard. All 5 and 6 series have slightly higher launches than the 7 and 8 series counterparts. They also have a DI TX flex which is more like a true X since they all do play soft to flex. The TX is very close to a WB83X. Tiger was hitting a TX when he tried out the DI.


I don't know why people say these play soft. I have a DI7X in my 910D3 and it frequencies at 284 - hardly soft to flex. Also, Tiger wasn't hitting the TX he was using the straight X flex - that's according to what the GD rep posted in another thread.
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How do you like the DI7X in the 910D3? What loft are you playing? Hows the launch, flight, spin, etc. I have a DI7TX on the way thats going into my 910D3 8.5. Cant wait to try it out. Currently playing a RIP 70X tipped an inch, very long but sometimes it goes a bit low, its alittle too easy to turn left, and the feel isn't all that great.

[sallyboy7153]

[quote name='craz-e' timestamp='1309379764' post='3346278']
Looking forward to the Titleist demo day I have coming up and trying this shaft in my 910 D2 head, looking for something a bit more "solid" than the made for Kai'Li I have at the moment
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I had the Kaili in my D2. Didn't like it so I switched to the Di 6s. Best decision I made! Smooth and very accurate! I love it. Might put it in my 3W and hybrid

[swanry30]

[quote name='solarpop' timestamp='1309457489' post='3350762']
[quote name='scs1070' timestamp='1309358815' post='3345152']
The site says it is a high launch/low spin shaft. How does the initial ball flight compare to that of a WB?
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^^^ +1
Would really like to know why people are comparing it to the WB when the website says it's a high launch shaft, which is the main reason i've stayed away from it despite hearing so many good reviews.
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i have mentioned this in other threads, but with the DI high launch doesn't mean high ball flight. launch is only one dynamic. the DI 7 and 8 series has one of the lower overall ball flights that you will find. up - then low spin flat. i was very surprised with my FT TOUR DI 7x combination - lowest ball flight of any driver i have hit. i have owned too many low launch spinning shafts with low spinning heads. this trumped them all...

looking at the big picture - the DI and the WB are comparable (overall ball flight/spin).

[ER-One]

Just ordered a Txxxxx R11 with DI-7x. Sooo Exited. Have heard nothing but good things and this thread complements that. cant wait.

[Redhawk59]

I have had the DI 6X in my driver for a little over a year, best driver shaft I have ever had by far. It will be very difficult to replace, great shot dispersion and feel through impact. I will give the DJ a shot but it's got a lot to stand up against.

[eventemposwing]

[quote name='Redhawk59' timestamp='1309839449' post='3365007']
I have had the DI 6X in my driver for a little over a year, best driver shaft I have ever had by far. It will be very difficult to replace, great shot dispersion and feel through impact. I will give the DJ a shot but it's got a lot to stand up against.
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An Asian Tour fitter I know told me that the DJ is a better shaft - he didn't quantify it as to what 'better' meant. But I was told it launches a little higher, but still with low spin - so I just equate this to be like the Whiteboard/'ahina and Blueboard/ka'ili when comparing the DI7 or DI8 with the DJ7 or DJ8

I believe Hunter Mahan has the DJ in his 3 wood?

I have a DJ (its only a DJ5) in my R11 and its as good (if not better!) as my G15 with DI5

[Spoon]

i dint like the di at all, i would have to agree its soo smooth but i still find it spinnier. it could be that i was overpowering the shaft.
i use 65s in all my drivers but the di6s had too much spin. maybe the di7s would have been a diff story. ss 105-108

[eventemposwing]

[quote name='Spoon' timestamp='1309854886' post='3365206']
i dint like the di at all, i would have to agree its soo smooth but i still find it spinnier. it could be that i was overpowering the shaft.
i use 65s in all my drivers but the di6s had too much spin. maybe the di7s would have been a diff story. ss 105-108
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With that sort of SS, I wouldn't have gone with a DI6 S flex - remember these are Japanese shafts, so the minimum I would have gone would have been a DI7 S tipped....

I would say that a DI7 X would play vastly differently for you - and probably reduce backspin by at least 700-800rpm

[Spoon]

[quote name='eventemposwing' timestamp='1309855072' post='3365207']
[quote name='Spoon' timestamp='1309854886' post='3365206']
i dint like the di at all, i would have to agree its soo smooth but i still find it spinnier. it could be that i was overpowering the shaft.
i use 65s in all my drivers but the di6s had too much spin. maybe the di7s would have been a diff story. ss 105-108
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With that sort of SS, I wouldn't have gone with a DI6 S flex - remember these are Japanese shafts, so the minimum I would have gone would have been a DI7 S tipped....

I would say that a DI7 X would play vastly differently for you - and probably reduce backspin by at least 700-800rpm
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I would have to agree, I knewni had a weak flex.
Thing is it cpm d to 265 and my current driver shaft a quadra FEX proto is also a 65s
At 267 45.25. The di though felt so much softer.
Will definitely give it another go with my my 3w

[eventemposwing]

[quote name='Spoon' timestamp='1309865898' post='3365284']
[quote name='eventemposwing' timestamp='1309855072' post='3365207']
[quote name='Spoon' timestamp='1309854886' post='3365206']
i dint like the di at all, i would have to agree its soo smooth but i still find it spinnier. it could be that i was overpowering the shaft.
i use 65s in all my drivers but the di6s had too much spin. maybe the di7s would have been a diff story. ss 105-108
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With that sort of SS, I wouldn't have gone with a DI6 S flex - remember these are Japanese shafts, so the minimum I would have gone would have been a DI7 S tipped....

I would say that a DI7 X would play vastly differently for you - and probably reduce backspin by at least 700-800rpm
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I would have to agree, I knewni had a weak flex.
Thing is it cpm d to 265 and my current driver shaft a quadra FEX proto is also a 65s
At 267 45.25. The di though felt so much softer.
Will definitely give it another go with my my 3w
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I always think CPM is a guide, but the proof of the pudding is actually to hit it - I think that due to different bend profiles, a 267 CPM shaft can play and feel differently and give differing amounts of spin compared to another make's 267 CPM shaft - pro clubfitters like JoeyK will probably confirm as I'm not too sure - and depending on your AoA, with your SS I would have thought you would fit more to a 272-275 CPM shaft in the DJ

Just my thoughts....

[Spoon]

[quote name='eventemposwing' timestamp='1309866354' post=]
I always think CPM is a guide, but the proof of the pudding is actually to hit it - I think that due to different bend profiles, a 267 CPM shaft can play and feel differently and give differing amounts of spin compared to another make's 267 CPM shaft - pro clubfitters like JoeyK will probably confirm as I'm not too sure - and depending on your AoA, with your SS I would have thought you would fit more to a 272-275 CPM shaft in the DJ

Just my thoughts....
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I agree. I tend to like my shafts on the slinger side ie softer. My preference
Is on high launch low spin. Considering the dj 7s for my 3wood. For the
Driver maybe a di7s. Your cpm observations are spot on. I compared the kiyoshi
6-4 and the di. Both are high launch low spin but the di felt much smoother than
The kiyoshi which felt dead to me. Same shaft profiles but my balls w the kiyoshi just dropped from the sky. They also played much stiffer in my hands flex for flex vs the di

[Dillinger]

[quote name='eventemposwing' timestamp='1309854317' post='3365202']
[quote name='Redhawk59' timestamp='1309839449' post='3365007']
I have had the DI 6X in my driver for a little over a year, best driver shaft I have ever had by far. It will be very difficult to replace, great shot dispersion and feel through impact. I will give the DJ a shot but it's got a lot to stand up against.
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An Asian Tour fitter I know told me that the DJ is a better shaft - he didn't quantify it as to what 'better' meant. But I was told it launches a little higher, but still with low spin - so I just equate this to be like the Whiteboard/'ahina and Blueboard/ka'ili when comparing the DI7 or DI8 with the DJ7 or DJ8

I believe Hunter Mahan has the DJ in his 3 wood?

I have a DJ (its only a DJ5) in my R11 and its as good (if not better!) as my G15 with DI5
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Whiteboard is low launch correct?

[eventemposwing]

[quote name='infantrygolfer' timestamp='1309884291' post='3366017']
[quote name='eventemposwing' timestamp='1309854317' post='3365202']
[quote name='Redhawk59' timestamp='1309839449' post='3365007']
I have had the DI 6X in my driver for a little over a year, best driver shaft I have ever had by far. It will be very difficult to replace, great shot dispersion and feel through impact. I will give the DJ a shot but it's got a lot to stand up against.
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An Asian Tour fitter I know told me that the DJ is a better shaft - he didn't quantify it as to what 'better' meant. But I was told it launches a little higher, but still with low spin - so I just equate this to be like the Whiteboard/'ahina and Blueboard/ka'ili when comparing the DI7 or DI8 with the DJ7 or DJ8

I believe Hunter Mahan has the DJ in his 3 wood?

I have a DJ (its only a DJ5) in my R11 and its as good (if not better!) as my G15 with DI5
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Whiteboard is low launch correct?
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Yes MRC Whiteboard and 'ahina are low launch/low spin but I would say that in DI-7 and DI-8 X flexes, these aren't any higher than the Whiteboard comparably - esp if you have a +ve AoA

Golfers spin balls off their driver because of their AoA coupled with the loft of the driver face - no other main reason; so distance is lost. If you can control your backspin, along with the correct AoA for your swing, everyone can drive 250 yards fairly easily with a 85-90mph swing using a mass of 335-350g with a COR of 0.83

[alexly]

[quote name='eventemposwing' timestamp='1309886124' post='3366027']
[quote name='infantrygolfer' timestamp='1309884291' post='3366017']
[quote name='eventemposwing' timestamp='1309854317' post='3365202']
[quote name='Redhawk59' timestamp='1309839449' post='3365007']
I have had the DI 6X in my driver for a little over a year, best driver shaft I have ever had by far. It will be very difficult to replace, great shot dispersion and feel through impact. I will give the DJ a shot but it's got a lot to stand up against.
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An Asian Tour fitter I know told me that the DJ is a better shaft - he didn't quantify it as to what 'better' meant. But I was told it launches a little higher, but still with low spin - so I just equate this to be like the Whiteboard/'ahina and Blueboard/ka'ili when comparing the DI7 or DI8 with the DJ7 or DJ8

I believe Hunter Mahan has the DJ in his 3 wood?

I have a DJ (its only a DJ5) in my R11 and its as good (if not better!) as my G15 with DI5
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Whiteboard is low launch correct?
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Yes MRC Whiteboard and 'ahina are low launch/low spin but I would say that in DI-7 and DI-8 X flexes, these aren't any higher than the Whiteboard comparably - esp if you have a +ve AoA

Golfers spin balls off their driver because of their AoA coupled with the loft of the driver face - no other main reason; so distance is lost. If you can control your backspin, along with the correct AoA for your swing, everyone can drive 250 yards fairly easily with a 85-90mph swing using a mass of 335-350g with a COR of 0.83


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compares with ahina, the DI have sightly lower spin numbers but launch 1 degree higher, but that doesn't mean DI has a higher overall ball flight (apex height).

For the DI series, GD has find a way to increase launch angle yet reduce spin, it has a launch angle of a mid high launch shaft and spin of a lowspin shaft, there's certainly something about the new nano material in the tip section.

[sallyboy7153]

I have the DI6s in my 910D2 and yesterday hit the longest drive in my life. 310yds to the pin and drove the green. I almost cried!!! I loved everything about this shaft. I also have the 910F and 910H. I was thinking of putting this shaft in them both. I see a lot of people have the DJ series in their FWs. Is it better in the FW for a reason than the DI? Or just preference? I was gunna get the DI8s for my FW but now thinking of DJ8s. What would be the main difference? I love the ball flight of the DI and feel. I don't have the opportunity to try the DJ series so gotta go out on a limb and I know shafts need to be fitted and tried out and what not but any help or ideas would be good. Thanks. SS 95-105

[Judge Smails]

Can anyone compare the DI shafts to the Attas? I am loving the Attas 7x but am very tempted to try a similar weight and flex in a DI or DJ.

[brraaadddd]

got my tour di 7x yesterday easily 25 yards longer then my 83 x whiteboard in 910 great shaft!

[shadowCLV]

I would doubt that Tiger who swings 125SS consistently swings a straight X. I have a MD7x tipped 1" and I swing 116. If I was the clubfitter there is no way he should be swinging an X. He loads hard and swings hard and has alot of spin. I would give him a TX and then maybe even talk tipping it. But if did in fact hit a X maybe thats why he did not like it and hit it all over the place, not stiff enough and too much spin...IMO



[quote name='schwanman' timestamp='1309789086' post='3363253']
I'm sure the 8X would launch pretty close to your whiteboard. All 5 and 6 series have slightly higher launches than the 7 and 8 series counterparts. They also have a DI TX flex which is more like a true X since they all do play soft to flex. The TX is very close to a WB83X. Tiger was hitting a TX when he tried out the DI.


I don't know why people say these play soft. I have a DI7X in my 910D3 and it frequencies at 284 - hardly soft to flex. Also, Tiger wasn't hitting the TX he was using the straight X flex - that's according to what the GD rep posted in another thread.
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[puresurfr]

This is easily my favorite shaft

I have pl;ayed the ft9 ta with a di7 stiff tipped a half an inch and it was a bomber and the ft tour with di6 stiff tipped a quarter inch before finally gaming a ft tour with the di7 xstiff untipped.....The x flex is only about half a flex stiffer than the stiff and i find the tipped stiff and untipped xflex to be almost identical in terms of feel and flight and distance. I m also using the di7 and di8 in stiff flex in my 910 fairway woods. They are very good shafts but nothing special for fairway woods. Im waiting on a few di 7js to come in.......

[sallyboy7153]

With a SS of 90-105mph would a DI6s or DI7s be better for 910d2? I'm getting the DJ8s for my 910F 15.5*.

[puresurfr]

That all depends on your swing and what weight shaft you like.....The di6 is probally better if u are a smooth swinger and the di7 if u prefer a heavier feel or make an aggressive move on the ball.....The di6 stiff or di7 stiff untipped will work fine for a 95-100mph swing.....probably not the best shaft if u are closer to 90 and u might want to tip it or move up a flex if u are at 105+ I have both shafts in identical heads and rotate them in and out of my bag depending on how i feel ! Haha but the di7 has been in the bag for most of the season !

[sallyboy7153]

My bad shouldve explained more. I have di 6s now and love it but was wondering if i would benefit more from the di 7s and if There's a diff between the 60 and 70 weight and if it was better for a certain swing speed. If its just diff weight and thats it than its all preference i guess. I'm a smooth tempo swinger and consistently hit 93+mph. I can't test out shafts around me so gotta go on instinct and im driving myself crazy deciding what i need. Wanna make
The right decision! Def gunna get the DJ8s fort FW 15.5*

[c.brown]

[quote name='shadowCLV' timestamp='1310680530' post='3392058']
I would doubt that Tiger who swings 125SS consistently swings a straight X. I have a MD7x tipped 1" and I swing 116. If I was the clubfitter there is no way he should be swinging an X. He loads hard and swings hard and has alot of spin. I would give him a TX and then maybe even talk tipping it. But if did in fact hit a X maybe thats why he did not like it and hit it all over the place, not stiff enough and too much spin...IMO



[quote name='schwanman' timestamp='1309789086' post='3363253']
I'm sure the 8X would launch pretty close to your whiteboard. All 5 and 6 series have slightly higher launches than the 7 and 8 series counterparts. They also have a DI TX flex which is more like a true X since they all do play soft to flex. The TX is very close to a WB83X. Tiger was hitting a TX when he tried out the DI.


I don't know why people say these play soft. I have a DI7X in my 910D3 and it frequencies at 284 - hardly soft to flex. Also, Tiger wasn't hitting the TX he was using the straight X flex - that's according to what the GD rep posted in another thread.
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However the MD series has a 4" PTS and Graphite Design recommends tipping it 1" in order to get it to play true to flex. The PTS is 3" on the DI so tipping wil affect the flex more than the MD. I've always heard that Tiger's shafts aren't as stiff as you would think. He definitey was not playing a TX, straight x-flex

[shadowCLV]

But if that is true doesn't that tell people on here that they play shafts to meet there EGO? Including myself? If Tigers swings 125 I gurantee the guy on here that says I swing 120-125 ain't swinging as hard as Tiger is in competition. Or the guy with a 110-114 SS playing an X....I just bought a HD7S Matrix and tipped it 1" to try that route as flex is a good thing too help work the ball and get a couple extra yards.

I heard DJ plays a soft X which again is crazy considering he is long as anyone. I know the Pros have smoother transitions and less jerky movements than the a very good Amateur..thats all I can think as to why they play softer shafts than their SS suggests. Because if you go by SS Tiger and DJ should be hitting a 1" tipped X or a TX in GD or XX in most shafts.

[quote name='c.brown' timestamp='1310737460' post='3393727']
[quote name='shadowCLV' timestamp='1310680530' post='3392058']
I would doubt that Tiger who swings 125SS consistently swings a straight X. I have a MD7x tipped 1" and I swing 116. If I was the clubfitter there is no way he should be swinging an X. He loads hard and swings hard and has alot of spin. I would give him a TX and then maybe even talk tipping it. But if did in fact hit a X maybe thats why he did not like it and hit it all over the place, not stiff enough and too much spin...IMO



[quote name='schwanman' timestamp='1309789086' post='3363253']
I'm sure the 8X would launch pretty close to your whiteboard. All 5 and 6 series have slightly higher launches than the 7 and 8 series counterparts. They also have a DI TX flex which is more like a true X since they all do play soft to flex. The TX is very close to a WB83X. Tiger was hitting a TX when he tried out the DI.


I don't know why people say these play soft. I have a DI7X in my 910D3 and it frequencies at 284 - hardly soft to flex. Also, Tiger wasn't hitting the TX he was using the straight X flex - that's according to what the GD rep posted in another thread.
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However the MD series has a 4" PTS and Graphite Design recommends tipping it 1" in order to get it to play true to flex. The PTS is 3" on the DI so tipping wil affect the flex more than the MD. I've always heard that Tiger's shafts aren't as stiff as you would think. He definitey was not playing a TX, straight x-flex
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[ASU-Golfer]

I dont know why but me and this shaft just didn't get along at all... I have a 115ish swing speed on an average swing I had a DI-7 S in a 909 and a VR Tour and it just couldn't get launched in the air at all for me.. I switched to a 60X Kal'il in an R11 and it is miles better for me.. Probably just had to do with the launches though since I never really liked the whiteboard either..

[sniper]

However the MD series has a 4" PTS and Graphite Design recommends tipping it 1" in order to get it to play true to flex. The PTS is 3" on the DI so tipping wil affect the flex more than the MD. [b]I've always heard that Tiger's shafts aren't as stiff as you would think.[/b] He definitey was not playing a TX, straight x-flex
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That's what she said! Couldn't resist the bad joke.

I just bought the DI-7 to put in a TE CB4 Tour 3W. My driver SS is 105 +/-, do you all think this is will be a good combo or should I hold onto the shaft for something else? I'm a high ball hitter. I have actually never hit the Tour AD DI, but I found a good deal and have always been a fan of GD Shafts.

[KMD]

I just put a DI 7-X in my 910D3. I swing my driver in the 105 to 110 range and have a pretty quick swing and transition - thus generating a lot of spin. I have gone through quite a few shafts recently and think that the DI may finally be the one. I have played the MFT ahine 70-X (couldn't keep that on the golf course - left and right misses); the RIP a70-X (hit it good but didn't like the feel of it); Axivcore Tour Red 79-X (produced some bombs but is a complete board); and Axivcore Tour Green 75-X (great shaft but the DI is just better). The DI produces a beautiful mid-high launch and then flattens out quickly. I play a slight cut with my misses being way right. On the swings where I was expecting to be off the golf course to the right, the DI kept me just off the fairrway in the right rough. It has a soft feel but remains very stable when you go after it. Truly one of the best feeling shafts that I have ever swung.

[kg92lefty]

[quote name='sallyboy7153' timestamp='1310436896' post='3383383']
I have the DI6s in my 910D2 and yesterday hit the longest drive in my life. 310yds to the pin and drove the green. I almost cried!!! I loved everything about this shaft. I also have the 910F and 910H. I was thinking of putting this shaft in them both. I see a lot of people have the DJ series in their FWs. Is it better in the FW for a reason than the DI? Or just preference? I was gunna get the DI8s for my FW but now thinking of DJ8s. What would be the main difference? I love the ball flight of the DI and feel. I don't have the opportunity to try the DJ series so gotta go out on a limb and I know shafts need to be fitted and tried out and what not but any help or ideas would be good. Thanks. SS 95-105
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Correct me if Im wrong but the DI is High/Low while the DJ is High/Mid. So it would be like the whiteboard/blueboard combo that people play in their driver and 3 wood.

[Smokey1226]

[quote name='sniper' timestamp='1310746575' post='3393953']
However the MD series has a 4" PTS and Graphite Design recommends tipping it 1" in order to get it to play true to flex. The PTS is 3" on the DI so tipping wil affect the flex more than the MD. [b]I've always heard that Tiger's shafts aren't as stiff as you would think. He definitey was not playing a TX, straight x-flex
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That's what she said! Couldn't resist the bad joke.

I just bought the DI-7 to put in a TE CB4 Tour 3W. My driver SS is 105 +/-, do you all think this is will be a good combo or should I hold onto the shaft for something else? I'm a high ball hitter. I have actually never hit the Tour AD DI, but I found a good deal and have always been a fan of GD Shafts.
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Well if it doesnt work out lmk, thats the combo i want to buy!

[ahbot]

[quote name='Smokey1226' timestamp='1312522067' post='3453554']
[quote name='sniper' timestamp='1310746575' post='3393953']
However the MD series has a 4" PTS and Graphite Design recommends tipping it 1" in order to get it to play true to flex. The PTS is 3" on the DI so tipping wil affect the flex more than the MD. [b]I've always heard that Tiger's shafts aren't as stiff as you would think. He definitey was not playing a TX, straight x-flex
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[Quote]
That's what she said! Couldn't resist the bad joke.

I just bought the DI-7 to put in a TE CB4 Tour 3W. My driver SS is 105 +/-, do you all think this is will be a good combo or should I hold onto the shaft for something else? I'm a high ball hitter. I have actually never hit the Tour AD DI, but I found a good deal and have always been a fan of GD Shafts.
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Well if it doesnt work out lmk, thats the combo i want to buy!
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The TEE CB4 Tour 3W with the Di is a freaking beast. I have the same set up with Di6x. It's light, fast and pounds the living daylights out of the ball.