910D3 a winner... 913D3 not so much....

[SOONERMAGIC]

Well some guys I know that work with Titleist were in town and were doing ball fittings with the trackman at my home course. I went over to hit the 913 against my 910 when they were slow and see what was up. (I never pass up an outdoor launch monitor session)

 

Clubs:

 

910D3 Ahina x5ct tipped 3/4" plays @ 44.5"

 

913D3 Stock Ahina (flat black paint) @ 44.5" no tipping. I also put the Ahina from my 910 in this head for about 10 swings.

 

First impressions:

 

Looks good, sounds awful, nothing stands out from the 910 visually or acoustically in a positive way.

 

Second Impressions:

 

More of the same here, this new driver Titleist has just doesn't reflect the same feel/response as the 910. I was very disappointed in this shaft/head combo. I didnt spend more than 20 min hitting balls with each. Probably hit 20-30 balls each. The 910 was considerably longer almost 7-13 yds total and the longest carry I could manage with the 913 was 296, and I flat out smoked that ball. I regularly am in the 300+ area for carry For some of you it might be a godsend if you dont like the thwack sound of the 910 and want a more metallic/louder sound from your driver.

 

 

Thoughts:

 

Feel: The 910 felt more solid, and like the face was more forgiving. The 913 felt like it needed to be hit on the nuts to really get the most out of it.

 

Distance: 910 was longer on every swing, and numbers were better.

 

Sound: 910 sounds like a solid thwack, 913 sounds like a hollow ding. All preference.

 

Overall results: I am glad I went and abused the Trackman while I had the time because it definitely saved me time and $ with regards to purchasing a new driver. This 910 is legit and will be hard for them to beat. I would not be surprised to see more of the guys on tour sticking with the 910 although if I had access to a number of shafts and head combos I could probably make this driver work, but with me working seriously on my game for 2013 qualifiers/USGA tourneys I did not want to take any chances with this head in the bag.

 

Last swing of the day.... (I have heard credentials are required here)

 

Club Speed was 116.9mph

 

 

[robbie91]

Not an uncommon response from the guys currently playing the D3. However, the 913 D2 is 10x better than the 910 D2 IMO. Seems like Titleist did a lot of work to make the D2 more appealing for the discerning golfer and just rebadged the D3.

[SALUKI LEFTY]

Seems to be the trend from reviews I read. Thx for the compare. I really like the 910 D3. Haven't tried the 913 yet.

[LUMA]

Thanks Sooner. Hope you are doing well!

[9thGreenAt9]

were both ahina shafts the same? was it real ahina vs stock ahina? and were both heads the same loft and swing weight? i mean even a different kind of grip can change things

[kwooten31]

Im still trying to find out what all the fuss is about these titileist drivers, not one has come close to my TM R11 TP. Ive almost bought one just to see if i could make it work like my TM. Can someone explain the hype of the 910 and 913, im totally baffled by all the love these 2 get. I have only demoed the 910 and saw nothing that made me want to change. Thanks for the help, and I hope im not hijacking the thread.

[Dizz]

Every person that I've fit with 910 to 913 has picked up ball speed. Sound/feel is so personal. Titleist changed this to a louder sound based on feedback from the consumer... not everyone likes loud or muted, damned if you do/don't.

With that said, if the screen shot you posted are your numbers (which only makes sense)... no reason to mess with anything as it doesn't get any better than that. Phenomenal numbers.

[mosesgolf]

Nice numbers. It doesn't get much better than that. What I don't understand is the mentality of most that every new driver model is longer than the previous model. NOPE. Not going to happen.

[jdhallissey]

Here is the thing, those numbers are about damn near perfect and if you put the same swing on the 913 as you did the 910 the ball will go the same place lol. Now the swings/ differences can be so small which change a lot down range. If you had less spin with the 913 then the ball will not fly as far with that launch. So as you get the point it is all relative.

[cal98]

You just wanted an excuse to post those numbers.

Went from 909 to 913D2 and gained 10 yards after fitting.

[UnderPar18]

[quote name='SOONERMAGIC' timestamp='1354228918' post='5997051']
Well some guys I know that work with Titleist were in town and were doing ball fittings with the trackman at my home course. I went over to hit the 913 against my 910 when they were slow and see what was up. (I never pass up an outdoor launch monitor session)

Clubs:

910D3 Ahina x5ct tipped 3/4" plays @ 44.5"

913D3 Stock Ahina (flat black paint) @ 44.5" no tipping.

[b]First impressions:[/b]

Looks good, sounds awful, nothing stands out from the 910 visually or acoustically in a positive way.

[b]Second Impressions: [/b]

More of the same here, this new driver Titleist has just doesn't reflect the same feel/response as the 910. I was very disappointed in this shaft/head combo. I didnt spend more than 20 min hitting balls with each. Probably hit 20-30 balls each. The 910 was considerably longer almost 7-13 yds total and the longest carry I could manage with the 913 was 296, and I flat out smoked that ball. I regularly am in the 300+ area for carry For some of you it might be a godsend if you dont like the thwack sound of the 910 and want a more metallic/louder sound from your driver.


[b]Thoughts:[/b]

[b]Feel: [/b] The 910 felt more solid, and like the face was more forgiving. The 913 felt like it needed to be hit on the nuts to really get the most out of it.

[b]Distance:[/b] 910 was longer on every swing, and numbers were better.

[b]Sound:[/b] 910 sounds like a solid thwack, 913 sounds like a hollow ding. All preference.

[b]Overall results:[/b] I am glad I went and abused the Trackman while I had the time because it definitely saved me time and $ with regards to purchasing a new driver. This 910 is legit and will be hard for them to beat. I would not be surprised to see more of the guys on tour sticking with the 910 although if I had access to a number of shafts and head combos I could probably make this driver work, but with me working seriously on my game for 2013 qualifiers/USGA tourneys I did not want to take any chances with this head in the bag.

Last swing of the day.... (I have heard credentials are required here)

Club Speed was 116.9mph

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[/quote]

Bottom line is you have great numbers with your 910 so te switch to the 913 doesn't seen worth it at all. However, I am going to disagree based on opinion with you. I think the 913 looks better then the 910 aesthetically and even sound wise, I loved my 909 hated the 910 and love the 913. Each to his own, I personally think Titleist did a great job with this driver from every stance in both the D2&D3. The real deal shaft offering is HUGE in my mind. Glad to see your 910 fits you because it saves you some money. Keep hitting it well man.

[SOONERMAGIC]

[quote name='miz85uno' timestamp='1354241055' post='5997951']
were both ahina shafts the same? was it real ahina vs stock ahina? and were both heads the same loft and swing weight? i mean even a different kind of grip can change things
[/quote]

913 had a stock grip, Ahina 72x (which on this years model is supposed to be legit and not tipped)

910 had a Multi Compound grip, and the last model of Ahina 72x x5ct (the one that was black on one side, and silver on the other)

They were the same name of shaft, but my version had a tip job of 3/4"... the head felt awful in the 913, even putting the head on my shaft was no winner.. so I would say its definately the head.

[SOONERMAGIC]

[quote name='LUMA' timestamp='1354240838' post='5997941']
Thanks Sooner. Hope you are doing well!
[/quote]

Whats up man... doing well, got out of teaching/working at courses and back into the oil biz so I have the $$ and time now to play and practice seriously. Only caveat is that Orlando has no oil biz, so Im living in Austin, TX now. (nice courses, but not hundreds of them like FL).

you doing well?

[SOONERMAGIC]

[quote name='kwooten31' timestamp='1354241503' post='5997973']
Im still trying to find out what all the fuss is about these titileist drivers, not one has come close to my TM R11 TP. Ive almost bought one just to see if i could make it work like my TM. Can someone explain the hype of the 910 and 913, im totally baffled by all the love these 2 get. I have only demoed the 910 and saw nothing that made me want to change. Thanks for the help, and I hope im not hijacking the thread.
[/quote]

The 910 is legit, and for me blew the R11 out of the water, wasnt even close. The 913 is another story.


What have we learned, you love TM, Im discussing Titleist drivers.. lets not make this a pissing party, move along if you dont want any info on the review and only came in here to swing around an R11 from below your waist.

[SOONERMAGIC]

[quote name='mosesgolf' timestamp='1354244044' post='5998167']
Nice numbers. It doesn't get much better than that. What I don't understand is the mentality of most that every new driver model is longer than the previous model. NOPE. Not going to happen.
[/quote]

For the most part that was the purpose of my post, I am a true club ho. (looking at a staff bag in my office with over 3k in lightly used clubs) I just could not pull the trigger on this. Wish the 913 did go farther, it just felt nowhere near as forgiving, not even close.

[jjones]

Do you think the 910F and 913F will follow a similar pattern for you, or do you think the 913F will be an actual improvement over the 910F?

[SOONERMAGIC]

[quote name='jjones' timestamp='1354292505' post='6000103']
Do you think the 910F and 913F will follow a similar pattern for you, or do you think the 913F will be an actual improvement over the 910F?
[/quote]

Honestly no telling until I get to hit it.

I gamed a 910f 5wood for a while, but wanted more distance as I could nuke that 5w and not carry it much farther than 260. I put a 910f 3w in the bag and have been in love with it, I dont know if I will switch, but if I do it means the 913 felt amazing. I will let you know when I get back from DFW... Im going to test the new stuff at the McLean center here pretty soon.

[finalist]

It's good to see reviews that are not always praising the latest and greatest. It makes the world seem less controlled by marketing, reps and staff wanting to fit a new sale into their store.

Isn't the 913 D2 more draw biased than the 910 D2?

Also, I keep wondering from an engineering point regarding the new 913 FW's hosel length -- wouldn't the shorter hosel found in the 913 FW versus 910 FW mean less shot control as far as shaping shots? There are several design changes in the 913 that seem to make this series more for people who want draws and nothing else compared to the 910 series which seems more for shot shaping?

[glfpunk]

I love these threads because it brings things back down to earth. Whenever one of the new drivers comes out, before it's released there's always a slew of people talking about how it's the best driver ever made and so much longer than the previous version and then it's actually released and you see how it's just another driver.

Some drivers are lower spinning than others, some are more forgiving, some are more workable, higher spinning, etc. None of them are flat out "further" in all conditions, you just have to find the one that's suited to you and find a shaft combo that works for you.

[finalist]

[quote name='glfpunk' timestamp='1354297063' post='6000529']
I love these threads because it brings things back down to earth. Whenever one of the new drivers comes out, before it's released there's always a slew of people talking about how it's the best driver ever made and so much longer than the previous version and then it's actually released and you see how it's just another driver.

Some drivers are lower spinning than others, some are more forgiving, some are more workable, higher spinning, etc. None of them are flat out "further" in all conditions, you just have to find the one that's suited to you and find a shaft combo that works for you.
[/quote]

Well said!

[RonSwanson]

[quote name='SOONERMAGIC' timestamp='1354285610' post='5999539']
[quote name='miz85uno' timestamp='1354241055' post='5997951']
were both ahina shafts the same? was it real ahina vs stock ahina? and were both heads the same loft and swing weight? i mean even a different kind of grip can change things
[/quote]

913 had a stock grip, Ahina 72x (which on this years model is supposed to be legit and not tipped)

910 had a Multi Compound grip, and the last model of Ahina 72x x5ct (the one that was black on one side, and silver on the other)

They were the same name of shaft, but my version had a tip job of 3/4"... the head felt awful in the 913, even putting the head on my shaft was no winner.. so I would say its definately the head.
[/quote]

I was going to ask if you hit the 913 with your shaft from the 910. Guess that was no winner either.

I've been playing the 913 D2 and I think it's the closest thing to date to my favorite driver of all time the 905R.

Also, like J.W. said, phenomenal numbers

[SOONERMAGIC]

[quote name='finalist' timestamp='1354297530' post='6000573']
[quote name='glfpunk' timestamp='1354297063' post='6000529']
I love these threads because it brings things back down to earth. Whenever one of the new drivers comes out, before it's released there's always a slew of people talking about how it's the best driver ever made and so much longer than the previous version and then it's actually released and you see how it's just another driver.

Some drivers are lower spinning than others, some are more forgiving, some are more workable, higher spinning, etc. None of them are flat out "further" in all conditions, you just have to find the one that's suited to you and find a shaft combo that works for you.
[/quote]

Well said!
[/quote]

No lie the longest two drives of my life are with the following clubs.


910D3 current set up... Genoa Lakes Resort (Lakes Course) I had the opportunity to play before the junior americas cup and the course was amazing, this place has wind that will blow you away and thus only has 3.5 foot flags bc the tall flags are all bent from non stop wind.
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Then there was this one...

Krank Rage 6.5* head with an ahina 82x x5ct tipped 1.25 inches that belonged to a friend of mine who participates in the ReMax. We got together for a round at Bella Colina in FL (MUST PLAY) so he could airmail me all day. I made a few swings, and this was the purest feeling contact I have to this day experienced. This ball had to have traveled 350-360 in the air, all 3 of my other swings with this club were not near as nice. Not even sure if the head was USGA conforming, but it sounded loud and went forever.

[geoangus]

I was debating jumping for 913 with my pro shop credit, but I really would find it hard pressed to be much better than the 910 is for my swing (and mortal yardages). This and other posts make me feel like I've made the correct choice.

[scratchswinger]

[quote name='finalist' timestamp='1354296892' post='6000505']
It's good to see reviews that are not always praising the latest and greatest. It makes the world seem less controlled by marketing, reps and staff wanting to fit a new sale into their store.

Isn't the 913 D2 more draw biased than the 910 D2?

Also, I keep wondering from an engineering point regarding the new 913 FW's hosel length -- wouldn't the shorter hosel found in the 913 FW versus 910 FW mean less shot control as far as shaping shots? There are several design changes in the 913 that seem to make this series more for people who want draws and nothing else compared to the 910 series which seems more for shot shaping?
[/quote]

Wait to hit the fairways and hybrids, I think you will be surprised.

[newyorker]

[quote name='SOONERMAGIC' timestamp='1354285770' post='5999561']
[quote name='kwooten31' timestamp='1354241503' post='5997973']
Im still trying to find out what all the fuss is about these titileist drivers, not one has come close to my TM R11 TP. Ive almost bought one just to see if i could make it work like my TM. Can someone explain the hype of the 910 and 913, im totally baffled by all the love these 2 get. I have only demoed the 910 and saw nothing that made me want to change. Thanks for the help, and I hope im not hijacking the thread.
[/quote]

The 910 is legit, and for me blew the R11 out of the water, wasnt even close. The 913 is another story.


What have we learned, you love TM, Im discussing Titleist drivers.. lets not make this a pissing party, move along if you dont want any info on the review and only came in here to swing around an R11 from below your waist.
[/quote]

[quote name='SOONERMAGIC' timestamp='1354285770' post='5999561']
[quote name='kwooten31' timestamp='1354241503' post='5997973']
Im still trying to find out what all the fuss is about these titileist drivers, not one has come close to my TM R11 TP. Ive almost bought one just to see if i could make it work like my TM. Can someone explain the hype of the 910 and 913, im totally baffled by all the love these 2 get. I have only demoed the 910 and saw nothing that made me want to change. Thanks for the help, and I hope im not hijacking the thread.
[/quote]

The 910 is legit, and for me blew the R11 out of the water, wasnt even close. The 913 is another story.


What have we learned, you love TM, Im discussing Titleist drivers.. lets not make this a pissing party, move along if you dont want any info on the review and only came in here to swing around an R11 from below your waist.
[/quote]

I'm still chuckling at this and I've read it 5 times now. An extremely polite put down....

[Jerry36]

For me, at least, 910 is just as solid. I love my 910 and Titleist, but it's not worth investing 4 bills for no more distance and a whole new club to get comfortable with.

[Shanksamillion]

I found that I liked the 913 D3 a lot better than my 910. I was surprised at the difference I felt between them considering that there is not too much that has changed.

[LUMA]

Yeah I just moved out to Colorado and thinking about getting into "energy". GREAT courses out here too!

[PingDrv00]

It was night and day for me with the 910 vs 913 D3s. In my testing not only did the 913 feel better, but with my fitting set-up it was easily 10-15 yards longer and more consistent than my R11TP. I am not sure if I had a 910 that I could find a reason to upgrade, but versus the R11 it was much better for me.

[theironhorse]

I am seeing the same opinion regarding 910D3 vs. 913D3, but what about someone using the 910D3 and considering going to the 913D2 strictly for added forgiveness. Played 910D3 all year and while I hit it well, it can go crooked on me now and then and am always looking for more forgiveness. I truly don't care about working the ball with my driver-all I want is the short grass.
Anybody going from 910D3 to 913D2 at all?