Rocketbladz tour - "B" Version

[Hole~Out~83]

[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]

I'm a bit confused as to how you think "not one pro is using the technology". Are you saying that the rocketbladez irons that DJ and Sergio use don't have speed slots?

[TLfan]

[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360806348' post='6424409']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
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You mad bro?
[/quote]

Nah I'm good sis

[Caesar Palache]

[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360806348' post='6424409']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
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You mad bro?
[/quote]

id say so. what do you mean they aren't using this slot technology? everyone playing rocketbladez tours have the slots in them too you know. im also confused on what you mean buy selling the cheapest made copy they can? are you just going on one of your assumption and guessing rants again where you just get so mad you make things up? i mean i dont think any companies these days make cheap equipment, they all do all kinds of research and testing. everything is quality these days

page 2, a lot longer then i thought it would take someone to bring up the "one loft" "V2" debate

[TLfan]

[quote name='Hole~Out~83' timestamp='1360806967' post='6424485']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]

I'm a bit confused as to how you think "not one pro is using the technology". Are you saying that the rocketbladez irons that DJ and Sergio use don't have speed slots?
[/quote]

No I'm not, but they aren't hitting the set you are buying in the store. Nothing like them actually....

[TLfan]

[quote name='Caesar Palache' timestamp='1360807119' post='6424503']
[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360806348' post='6424409']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]


You mad bro?
[/quote]

id say so. what do you mean they aren't using this slot technology? everyone playing rocketbladez tours have the slots in them too you know. im also confused on what you mean buy selling the cheapest made copy they can? are you just going on one of your assumption and guessing rants again where you just get so mad you make things up? i mean i dont think any companies these days make cheap equipment, they all do all kinds of research and testing. everything is quality these days

page 2, a lot longer then i thought it would take someone to bring up the "one loft" "V2" debate
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You have me figured out just like you have your facts straight.....so if you wanna say "you mad bro?" then do as you wish, the only people mad it seems is you since all your info is "old" you guess.....I could never imagine a pro wanting to play anything besides a special hand milled set like yours.

[Hole~Out~83]

[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360807136' post='6424507']
[quote name='Hole~Out~83' timestamp='1360806967' post='6424485']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]

I'm a bit confused as to how you think "not one pro is using the technology". Are you saying that the rocketbladez irons that DJ and Sergio use don't have speed slots?
[/quote]

No I'm not, but they aren't hitting the set you are buying in the store. Nothing like them actually....
[/quote]

Ok but look at it this way. TMAG puts out a new iron, they want to put a version on the shelfs that fits the needs of high handicap players yet they also want a set that appeals to better amatuer players. They know the will have a large market in each of those categories with these two sets. So why would they mass produce a set of irons that probably 90% of amatuers could not play? Now I do agree all companies should give their customers the choice to order actual tour authentic equipment but mass producing it would just be bad business

[Scott@84]

[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360807066' post='6424499']
[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360806348' post='6424409']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]


You mad bro?
[/quote]

Nah I'm good sis
[/quote]

He mad!

Seriously though, you seem really mad at TaylorMade. I think you should get out and play a little golf, takes some deep breaths and enjoy nature. It's not healthy harboring this much anger towards something that is meant to be enjoyable. If you get this worked up over golf clubs I hate to see what would happen if you lost your job.

[TLfan]

[quote name='Hole~Out~83' timestamp='1360807801' post='6424585']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360807136' post='6424507']
[quote name='Hole~Out~83' timestamp='1360806967' post='6424485']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]

I'm a bit confused as to how you think "not one pro is using the technology". Are you saying that the rocketbladez irons that DJ and Sergio use don't have speed slots?
[/quote]

No I'm not, but they aren't hitting the set you are buying in the store. Nothing like them actually....
[/quote]

Ok but look at it this way. TMAG puts out a new iron, they want to put a version on the shelfs that fits the needs of high handicap players yet they also want a set that appeals to better amatuer players. They know the will have a large market in each of those categories with these two sets. So why would they mass produce a set of irons that probably 90% of amatuers could not play? Now I do agree all companies should give there customers the choice to order actual tour authentic equipment but mass producing it would just be bad business.
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They made the rocketbladez non tour for high handicaps, most of your better amateur players and scratch golfer prefer a players CB with a thin top line and as little as offset as possible at every club I've played at. Some don't mind a cast iron if it looks good like a B or C head depending how much offset they like, an added bonus or forged will top the cake, yet cast keeps production cost down to make more $ which some take as less superior equipment. I play cast irons and the difference in cast versus forged doesn't bother me, yet I like a thin top line and zero offset with some cavity otherwise I'd play blades.

[Scratch2Plus]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1360793726' post='6423211']
It's TM we are taking about here so there should be no surprise if a "B" set does surface.
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I honestly would be surprised if they DIDNT make a "B" Version.

[Big Ben]

[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360807884' post='6424595']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360807066' post='6424499']
[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360806348' post='6424409']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]


You mad bro?
[/quote]

Nah I'm good sis
[/quote]

He mad!

Seriously though, you seem really mad at TaylorMade. I think you should get out and play a little golf, takes some deep breaths and enjoy nature. It's not healthy harboring this much anger towards something that is meant to be enjoyable. If you get this worked up over golf clubs I hate to see what would happen if you lost your job.
[/quote]We really need to stop this banter, it's nothing more than a passive aggressive means to attack another member, this post is worthless to the content of this thread...BB

[whatshannenin]

Strong misc language.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

It does seem interesting though that TM would "hand mill" sets for a mentioned 2.3 handicap.....even more interesting that they would for the hundreds of pros they have on staff that may or may not use the Rocketbladez. Maybe the proto's were "hand milled" but I find it very hard that each and every Rocketbladez are going through a manual Bridgeport mill or something of the like in manual feed...which we be "hand milled". I'm sure what they meant to inform you CP, was that they were fly cut milled faces which is done after the casting, form forging or forging....similar to Vokey. Plenty of irons, wedges (including the old Y cutter TM Tour wedges) were fly cut milled. But that was my old info....maybe that's changed.

[WVP]

Was kinda wondering about the "hand milled" faces myself.

[youngwaldo]

I personally like to see pictures of this b version. Hoping with all this fuss aboutmthe B TM might release a few like the R9B if it is true.

Wk

[GooseHook]

[quote name='phillypete' timestamp='1360805332' post='6424301']
People people people!

I am positive there WERE an A, a B, C, D, E, etc.

A product of this level of distribution doesn't just fall out of the sky. It's the son of a multitude of prototypes. The final result is a series of compromises to create a product that will attract the most customers.

With out a doubt some of these prototypes suit a higher level of game than the general consumer base is bringing to the table. Hence a the company puts their pros on a limited run of a preproduction prototype and shoves the actual product off the the big box stores.

Now it's not like TM and other companies maliciously set it up this way. The would much prefer to have everyone playing the same stick. But if push comes to shove they are going to find something that looks similar to their current retail offering for their A-List to put in their bag.

And really... Are we at all surprised someone who has the potential to set the course record every time they tee it up needs something different than the typical "might break 100 with two mully's and a couple generous foot wedges"?

Unless you have a tee time at the riviera tomorrow, you could probably benefit from the production model more than another.

Now that being said. I really wish TM would push a club out to retail if they find 90% of their tour staff prefering it to retail for those of us (like me) too stupid to play what's best for their game.

But obviously the economics aren't their. They "kinda" tried it with the TP models, and guess what? The TP's are still collecting dust. I bet any golf shop worth their salt still has a couple of 5 series TP's rooting away in a back closet.

I guess at the end of the day, the general golfing public is smart enough to know they shouldn't be playing the exact clubs the pros are playing.
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Excellent point. If I was a tour staffer, and loved the prototype that everyone else didn't like, I'd snatch that up. Any prototype for testing would have already been tested for conformance, so that's a moot point anyway.

Somewhere along the way you may have a prototype that costs more to manufacture, and you have to make a compromise between tour feedback and mass-production feasibility.

I just don't quite get why the multiple version business seems to be so cryptic. A lot of guys were led to believe the R1 existed in two formats, then willpeoples posts photos and everyone realizes that their info was all wrong.

If the exclusive, unique versions get this much attention on here, TM ought to experiment with a limited run. Guys would pay an arseload to get their hands on them.

[Scott@84]

[quote name='Big Ben' timestamp='1360808665' post='6424669']
[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360807884' post='6424595']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360807066' post='6424499']
[quote name='Scott@84' timestamp='1360806348' post='6424409']
[quote name='TLfan' timestamp='1360805863' post='6424363']
I am glad that TM decides what we get to play with, what's funny is they dump all this R&D into one loft technology and this so called speed slot in these irons yet not one pro is using the technology and they sell the public the cheapest made copy of it at a huge profit margin so they can afford to pay everyone to hit what they lead the public to believe is played on tour. Maybe we will get a TP version which is a smaller head choice and a set of RB Tour B's or C's like they did with the R9 series, otherwise we can just wait until October to get them for 50% less than what the make believe models cost that are sitting on shelves around the country when they release the next big thing.....
[/quote]


You mad bro?
[/quote]

Nah I'm good sis
[/quote]

He mad!

Seriously though, you seem really mad at TaylorMade. I think you should get out and play a little golf, takes some deep breaths and enjoy nature. It's not healthy harboring this much anger towards something that is meant to be enjoyable. If you get this worked up over golf clubs I hate to see what would happen if you lost your job.
[/quote]We really need to stop this banter, it's nothing more than a passive aggressive means to attack another member, this post is worthless to the content of this thread...BB
[/quote]


And posting the same old tirade in every Taylormade thread is useful? What does that add to a thread?

[phillypete]

[quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1360814330' post='6425363']

Excellent point. If I was a tour staffer, and loved the prototype that everyone else didn't like, I'd snatch that up. Any prototype for testing would have already been tested for conformance, so that's a moot point anyway.

Somewhere along the way you may have a prototype that costs more to manufacture, and you have to make a compromise between tour feedback and mass-production feasibility.

I just don't quite get why the multiple version business seems to be so cryptic. A lot of guys were led to believe the R1 existed in two formats, then willpeoples posts photos and everyone realizes that their info was all wrong.

If the exclusive, unique versions get this much attention on here, TM ought to experiment with a limited run. Guys would pay an arseload to get their hands on them.
[/quote]

They did the limited run before (TP series) and it didn't work. IMO they just did it wrong. They should have done the TP series as a "Tour Department" special order ala carte menu instead of mass marketing it and stocking it in stores.

[Caesar Palache]

Strong misc language.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

It does seem interesting though that TM would "hand mill" sets for a mentioned 2.3 handicap.....even more interesting that they would for the hundreds of pros they have on staff that may or may not use the Rocketbladez. Maybe the proto's were "hand milled" but I find it very hard that each and every Rocketbladez are going through a manual Bridgeport mill or something of the like in manual feed...which we be "hand milled". I'm sure what they meant to inform you CP, was that they were fly cut milled faces which is done after the casting, form forging or forging....similar to Vokey. Plenty of irons, wedges (including the old Y cutter TM Tour wedges) were fly cut milled. But that was my old info....maybe that's changed.

 

haha so im not really sure why this turned into a hand milled for me debate? anyway yes our clubs are milled differently then the clubs that are out on the shelf. whether they are hand milled or not, i dont know, i thought i remember someone telling they were. it doesnt really matter. ours are milled across the whole face, the ones on the shelf are just milled through the grooves. not on the toe, the toe is all chrome from off the shelf. ours were set aside from the tour department for the 5 guys who would end up winning the trip. again im not really sure why this came up but yeah i hope that helps explain it a bit, not trying to brag or anything. just a bit confused why this even came up

[youngwaldo]

Well said Caesar

Wk

[easyyy]

Guys... please stay on track and take the high road. If the negativity and insults continue we will clean up or close down the thread.

[chickenpotpie]

Can we get back to the topic of the day.....that is, that there IS a set of B heads out there?

Can we stop with the silly name calling? Why are we talking about face milling on a couple sets of prototype irons? And can we all agree that other people might get new information about TM products.....information that might just be legit?

[Boogs2]

Like most have said, I would be surprised if they didnt make a "B" version down the road. Maybe even a "C" version if a staffer decides he doesnt like any of the versions of the Rbladez out.

In the end, all we know is that Staffers get awesome treatment

[Caesar Palache]

[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1360817095' post='6425645']
Can we get back to the topic of the day.....that is, that there IS a set of B heads out there?

Can we stop with the silly name calling? Why are we talking about face milling on a couple sets of prototype irons? And can we all agree that other people might get new information about TM products.....information that might just be legit?
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and a set of C heads! obviously my info was outdated so yes i think i can agree people will get new info

[Thrillhouse]

[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1360817095' post='6425645']
Can we get back to the topic of the day.....that is, that there IS a set of B heads out there?

Can we stop with the silly name calling? Why are we talking about face milling on a couple sets of prototype irons? And can we all agree that other people might get new information about TM products.....information that might just be legit?
[/quote]

I'd actually be really surprised if they never came out with the B heads (and of course I'm assuming that they exist, the guy reporting that info seemed sincere). I hit a friends rocketbladez tours that he got from his latest trip to the kingdom and thought they were a little chunky for my taste, a more compact head, narrower top line, and narrower sole would definitely be desirable if I were to play a club like that.

[Big Ben]

I'm a huge fan of the "B" heads, I for one really hope they become Available in some capacity...BB

[easyyy]

[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1360817095' post='6425645']
Can we get back to the topic of the day.....that is, that there IS a set of B heads out there?

Can we stop with the silly name calling? Why are we talking about face milling on a couple sets of prototype irons? And can we all agree that other people might get new information about TM products.....information that might just be legit?
[/quote]

As I said on page 1, [color=#282828]I heard they will have 2 versions (call them B and C) of the rocketbladez. The standard and one with more offset and one with less offset to appeal to the players that want that look and feature. I heard that a while ago.[/color]

[color=#282828]I also heard the cavity and material is all the same. Just offset options. I will try to verify.[/color]


[color=#282828]Here is that pic of Sergio's [/color]irons today. Cant see much...

[attachment=1537209:Screen Shot 2013-02-13 at 11.55.11 PM.png]

[Kadin 25]

[quote name='easyyy' timestamp='1360817993' post='6425699']
[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1360817095' post='6425645']
Can we get back to the topic of the day.....that is, that there IS a set of B heads out there?

Can we stop with the silly name calling? Why are we talking about face milling on a couple sets of prototype irons? And can we all agree that other people might get new information about TM products.....information that might just be legit?
[/quote]

As I said on page 1, [color=#282828]I heard they will have 2 versions (call them B and C) of the rocketbladez. The standard and one with more offset and one with less offset to appeal to the players that want that look and feature. I heard that a while ago.[/color]

[color=#282828]I also heard the cavity and material is all the same. Just offset options. I will try to verify.[/color]


[color=#282828]Here is that pic of Sergio's [/color]irons today. Cant see much...

[attachment=1537209:Screen Shot 2013-02-13 at 11.55.11 PM.png]
[/quote]Hard to tell but the soul looks smaller but then again without a comparison it's too hard to tell...thanks for the pic!

[kekoa]

Damn i wish i got better pics of sergios clubs yesterday when he set the down in front of me.

On another note i need a set of the b's after how the op described them.

[Shaank0]

[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1360826598' post='6426063']
Damn i wish i got better pics of sergios clubs yesterday when he set the down in front of me.

On another note i need a set of the b's after how the op described them.
[/quote]

You need to add an "h' in your name! Kek-HO-a.

[ntogolf]

Those (to me) look to have less offset than the the retail models I've seen. I too am thinking the current "tour" models are to clunky and way to much offset. JMHO.

[kekoa]

Same pic but maybe a bit clearer for reference.