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I don't care if tommy 2 gloves is in the masters but it exciting to watch the ams to see how they do. Look at goofy as beau hossler, had he lead at the us open as an am, f'n awesome.

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[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365563661' post='6797993']
Russ he earned his way there. Tommy hasn't earned his way yet. Yes the selection process can leave out more deserving players but in this case you are wrong. He wasnt 'selected'. He got in by winning a tournament.
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Yes he got it by winning a tournament which had a field that was much ,much.much weaker than the event that Mr Gainey won..Winning the Asian amateur has been a ticket to Augusta only for a short period of time.Suppose that you were 31st on the money list on the Pga Tour .I think that you and i would both agree that you were among the best players in the world and that you deserve to play at the Masters,but according to the Master's rules ,you would not be selected while an amateur who can not compare to you is selected .You play professional golf.Do you really think that he Guan could make any money on the professional tours ?

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[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365563661' post='6797993']
Russ he earned his way there. Tommy hasn't earned his way yet. Yes the selection process can leave out more deserving players but in this case you are wrong. He wasnt 'selected'. He got in by winning a tournament.
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Yes he got it by winning a tournament which had a field that was much ,much.much weaker than the event that Mr Gainey won..Winning the Asian amateur has been a ticket to Augusta only for a short period of time.Suppose that you were 31st on the money list on the Pga Tour .I think that you and i would both agree that you were among the best players in the world and that you deserve to play at the Masters,but according to the Master's rules ,you would not be selected while an amateur who can not compare to you is selected .You play professional golf.Do you really think that he Guan could make any money on the professional tours ?
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At 14 no. But I'd much rather watch a 14 year old kid play out there than the 31st ranked player on the PGA Tour. There's a reason the tournaments slogan is 'A tradition unlike any other.'

I bet Tommy has zero issue with Guan playing.

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[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365563661' post='6797993']
Russ he earned his way there. Tommy hasn't earned his way yet. Yes the selection process can leave out more deserving players but in this case you are wrong. He wasnt 'selected'. He got in by winning a tournament.
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Yes he got it by winning a tournament which had a field that was much ,much.much weaker than the event that Mr Gainey won..Winning the Asian amateur has been a ticket to Augusta only for a short period of time.Suppose that you were 31st on the money list on the Pga Tour .I think that you and i would both agree that you were among the best players in the world and that you deserve to play at the Masters,but according to the Master's rules ,you would not be selected while an amateur who can not compare to you is selected .You play professional golf.Do you really think that he Guan could make any money on the professional tours ?
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Who cares if he could make any money? He's a 14 year old amatuer who made it into the masters. Should have been number 30 on the money list or number 50 in the rankings. These guy all know what the qualifiers are, get there or don't get in. It's simple really.

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The selection of Guan Tianlang is a prime illustration of why the Master's has the weakest field of any major golf event ,weaker than many events on the PGA tour .Currently he is ranked #163 in world AMATEUR rankings .Now that is a terrific accomplishment for any 14 year old,but it is no where near the level of PGA Tour players.Does anyone in his right mind think that Guan should be invited while Tommy "two gloves" Gainey should not despite winning an event on the PGA TOUR .What about other players on the PGA Tour who were not invited,but who are highly ranked but outside the top 30 or world 50 .These golfers also had to make it through numerous rounds of the brutal Q school which are infinitiely harder than any Asian amatuer event.Guan's selection is a slap in the face of these outstanding players who have proven their ability to compete at the highest levels of golf and deserve to play in the Masters
If Guan made it through local and sectional qualifying rounds as is required by the USGA in the US Open ,then he deserves a place,but the Masters is an invitational event that has in the past arbitrarily changed its rules to exclude such golfers as Charles Sifford and for some reason does not include events on the fall schedule of the PGA TOUR
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The event he won gets an invitation, just like US Am, British Am and Pub Links. He earned his spot by winning. Those tour players knew they didn't get a spot when they won. They need to shut up as it's in poor form to critize this kid. Your post is in poor form as well, IMO.
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The post was not a criticism of Guan ,but of the selection process made by the people who run the Masters.
I will be glad to discuss any line of my post
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...you obviously have no clue about the history and traditions of the Masters...
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Are you aware that semi finalists in the US amateur used to be invited ,but are not now ?Are you aware that being a member of the US Walker Cup team automatically earned you an invitation to the Masters,but do not now.Are you aware that few if any Mid amateur champions have made the cut since they were invited in 1989?Are you aware that Billy Joe Patton in 1954 and Ken Venturi in 1956 both almost won the Masters as amateurs .During that era, big money was not available on the tours ,so some top amateurs never turned pro. with Harvie Ward and Billy Joe standing out .Tell me how many of the top amateurs do not turn pro currently.Are you aware that there were no black members of Augusta national until 1990.Are you aware that there were no women member of Augusta National until a few years ago.The last two facts are part of the proud traditions of Augusta National

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[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365564829' post='6798105']
[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365563661' post='6797993']
Russ he earned his way there. Tommy hasn't earned his way yet. Yes the selection process can leave out more deserving players but in this case you are wrong. He wasnt 'selected'. He got in by winning a tournament.
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Yes he got it by winning a tournament which had a field that was much ,much.much weaker than the event that Mr Gainey won..Winning the Asian amateur has been a ticket to Augusta only for a short period of time.Suppose that you were 31st on the money list on the Pga Tour .I think that you and i would both agree that you were among the best players in the world and that you deserve to play at the Masters,but according to the Master's rules ,you would not be selected while an amateur who can not compare to you is selected .You play professional golf.Do you really think that he Guan could make any money on the professional tours ?
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At 14 no. But I'd much rather watch a 14 year old kid play out there than the 31st ranked player on the PGA Tour. There's a reason the tournaments slogan is 'A tradition unlike any other.'

I bet Tommy has zero issue with Guan playing.
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Charlie Beljan and Matt Emery did

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[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365565237' post='6798155']
[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365564829' post='6798105']
[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365563661' post='6797993']
Russ he earned his way there. Tommy hasn't earned his way yet. Yes the selection process can leave out more deserving players but in this case you are wrong. He wasnt 'selected'. He got in by winning a tournament.
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Yes he got it by winning a tournament which had a field that was much ,much.much weaker than the event that Mr Gainey won..Winning the Asian amateur has been a ticket to Augusta only for a short period of time.Suppose that you were 31st on the money list on the Pga Tour .I think that you and i would both agree that you were among the best players in the world and that you deserve to play at the Masters,but according to the Master's rules ,you would not be selected while an amateur who can not compare to you is selected .You play professional golf.Do you really think that he Guan could make any money on the professional tours ?
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At 14 no. But I'd much rather watch a 14 year old kid play out there than the 31st ranked player on the PGA Tour. There's a reason the tournaments slogan is 'A tradition unlike any other.'

I bet Tommy has zero issue with Guan playing.
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Charlie Beljan and Matt Emery did
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And the only people that cares that they have a problem with it are you, Charlie Beljan and Matt Emery

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[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365566681' post='6798341']
[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365565237' post='6798155']
[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365564829' post='6798105']
[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365563661' post='6797993']
Russ he earned his way there. Tommy hasn't earned his way yet. Yes the selection process can leave out more deserving players but in this case you are wrong. He wasnt 'selected'. He got in by winning a tournament.
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Yes he got it by winning a tournament which had a field that was much ,much.much weaker than the event that Mr Gainey won..Winning the Asian amateur has been a ticket to Augusta only for a short period of time.Suppose that you were 31st on the money list on the Pga Tour .I think that you and i would both agree that you were among the best players in the world and that you deserve to play at the Masters,but according to the Master's rules ,you would not be selected while an amateur who can not compare to you is selected .You play professional golf.Do you really think that he Guan could make any money on the professional tours ?
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At 14 no. But I'd much rather watch a 14 year old kid play out there than the 31st ranked player on the PGA Tour. There's a reason the tournaments slogan is 'A tradition unlike any other.'

I bet Tommy has zero issue with Guan playing.
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Charlie Beljan and Matt Emery did
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Did you care before you heard them say it or did you hop on the bandwagon?

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[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365565237' post='6798155']
[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365564829' post='6798105']
[quote name='lv_2_hack' timestamp='1365563661' post='6797993']
Russ he earned his way there. Tommy hasn't earned his way yet. Yes the selection process can leave out more deserving players but in this case you are wrong. He wasnt 'selected'. He got in by winning a tournament.
[/quote]
Yes he got it by winning a tournament which had a field that was much ,much.much weaker than the event that Mr Gainey won..Winning the Asian amateur has been a ticket to Augusta only for a short period of time.Suppose that you were 31st on the money list on the Pga Tour .I think that you and i would both agree that you were among the best players in the world and that you deserve to play at the Masters,but according to the Master's rules ,you would not be selected while an amateur who can not compare to you is selected .You play professional golf.Do you really think that he Guan could make any money on the professional tours ?
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At 14 no. But I'd much rather watch a 14 year old kid play out there than the 31st ranked player on the PGA Tour. There's a reason the tournaments slogan is 'A tradition unlike any other.'

I bet Tommy has zero issue with Guan playing.
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Charlie Beljan and Matt Emery did
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Doesn't surprise me about Charlie. He can be a real sweetheart. I wonder if they griped when Augusta made the agreement with the Asian amateur a couple of years ago. Or are they just griping now bc they were on the cusp of getting in?

There's a saying that I've learned (the hard way) that pertains to players griping about stuff involving these situations that goes something like this: Play Better.

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Funny how the members of Augusta go out of the way to make it the best golf event in history and people wanna tell them how to run their tournament and who should get to be a member. Geez, Glad they have thick skin and don't just take their ball and go home.

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Hope the kid plays well and threatens (or makes) the cut. Would make the tournament more interesting for me as a viewer.

I could care less if someone in the 30's or 40's on a money list doesn't make the field. Beljian and Emery are the types of pros that make me turn the channel, not tune in, anyway.

I like the way Augusta National runs things, now.

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Currently he is ranked #163 in world AMATEUR rankings .Now that is a terrific accomplishment for any 14 year old,but it is no where near the level of PGA Tour players.
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Would you be complaining the selection process if the winner of Asian Amateur would have been #1 in world Amateur rankings?

ps. please press spacebar only [b]after,[/b] the punctuation marks, not before.

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[b]Hope the kid plays well and threatens (or makes) the cut. Would make the tournament more interesting for me as a viewer.[/b]

I could care less if someone in the 30's or 40's on a money list doesn't make the field. Beljian and Emery are the types of pros that make me turn the channel, not tune in, anyway.

I like the way Augusta National runs things, now.
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Yes, definitely. It reminds me of in England we have a football(soccer to you) competition called the FA Cup and it involves every team in the country. Not sure how many but it's thousands. It's a knock out competition and every year you get a non-league (or amateur) team playing like a Manchester United or Liverpool etc live on TV. And sometimes they win. This is like a club champion playing Tiger or Rory and winning!

It's fascinating stuff, it's not really whether someone deserves to be there or not because it's not about that, it's about entertainment. I mean, is he going to win it or deprive the number 31 on the list a win. I doubt it's going to effect the quality of the competition because one player is swapped for another.

Maybe it's slightly sadistic to see someone so unprepared to face the course (or team) challenge that makes it so compelling. I mean he could rack up a crazy score in the 90's or higher and that would be pretty entertaining to some. Also, you're thinking that if he does well then we could compete if we have one of our better days.

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One day there will be an amateur who contends at the Masters... This year? Next? In 5? 10? Dont know but I'm sure one day it will happen.
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I don't think it will happen. Unless it's a lifelong amateur player that regularly plays tour events on the side and contends in those regularly.

Golf is just too deep and specialized now for a guy that does it part-time to compete in a major.

That is why I think we will never see what Bob Jones did happen again (an amateur win the us open and us am and british open and british am tournaments...much less all in a single year).

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[quote name='JustTheTips' timestamp='1365525111' post='6793431']
I find it amazing that people still don't get that golf is a target sport not a distance one. Sure it helps to be long but it helps even more to be accurate.
[/quote]Yes, straw men still don't get that.

You participated in this thread. . .

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/791663-strokes-gained-driving-pga-tour-2012-what-does-it-teach-us/page__st__30"]http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/791663-strokes-gained-driving-pga-tour-2012-what-does-it-teach-us/page__st__30[/url]

it has a much more nuance discussion of this topic than just concluding "it helps to be long but it helps even more to be accurate" (what does that even mean?)

And, I'm not sure if it's true or not that Guan only gets it out there 250, but there will never be another tournament in the world at the PGA/European level where someone averaging 250 off the tee -- even if he hits 100% of his fairways -- is going to sniff the leaderboard. Distance does make a difference. You know this.

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...you guys should watch out for Thaworn Wirachat from Thailand who has one of the most unique swings in golf....

it's like a souped-up version of Jim Furyk's swing but the guy can play...and has a fantastic short game!!

he's in the masters field as the no.1 in the asian our last year...

i guarrantee all the swing guru wannabees here will have a field day analyzing and trying to correct his swing !!!!

if he and Guan make the cut it will be epic!!
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I guess with the diluted field, the Masters would be the easiest Major to win.
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Would comment on this but I'm burnt out on the other weak field thread

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[quote name='Sean2' timestamp='1365551780' post='6796519']
Heck, I'm no expert, but I always thought the golf swing was about impact position...it doesn't matter how you get there as long as you get there. In my generation there were a lot of "ugly" swings, but those guys got it done. And, I bet if you could take a picture at impact position, they probably all looked pretty similar.
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Agree completely. It's the 2 inches behind the ball and in front that matter. How you get there really doesn't.

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[quote name='JustTheTips' timestamp='1365525111' post='6793431']
I find it amazing that people still don't get that golf is a target sport not a distance one. Sure it helps to be long but it helps even more to be accurate.
[/quote]Yes, straw men still don't get that.

You participated in this thread. . .

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/791663-strokes-gained-driving-pga-tour-2012-what-does-it-teach-us/page__st__30"]http://www.golfwrx.c...us/page__st__30[/url]

it has a much more nuance discussion of this topic than just concluding "it helps to be long but it helps even more to be accurate" (what does that even mean?)

And, I'm not sure if it's true or not that Guan only gets it out there 250, but there will never be another tournament in the world at the PGA/European level where someone averaging 250 off the tee -- even if he hits 100% of his fairways -- is going to sniff the leaderboard. Distance does make a difference. You know this.
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With 7400 yards the length sure helps.

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http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2013/4/8/4196142/2013-masters-field

How they qualified ....


There are no such open qualifying opportunities for The Masters, which formally lists 19 distinct ways to earn an invitation. But that can be misleading, as many players qualify in multiple ways to take up those spots and some of those 19 ways provide only one reservation. Here's this year's field, broken down by how they qualified:

Past Masters champions
The best way to get an invitation to The Masters is to own a green jacket from Augusta National Golf Club. Winning The Masters earns a player an automatic lifetime invitation, which is certainly unlike all other tournaments in golf. The old-timers have been gently encouraged to step aside over the past decade, as the seniors like Charles Coody and Gay Brewer struggled to get around the course. There are 12 former winners who are not playing this year, including Tommy Aaron, Jack Burke Jr., Billy Casper, Charles Coody, Nick Faldo, Raymond Floyd, Doug Ford, Bob Goalby, Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer, Gary Player and Fuzzy Zoeller. The three legends in that group -- Nicklaus, Palmer and Player -- will be on hand Thursday morning for the traditional ceremony on the first tee to start the tournament.

Here are the 19 past champions who are playing in 2013:

Angel Cabrera (2009)
Fred Couples (1992)
Ben Crenshaw (1984, 1995)
Trevor Immelman (2008)
Zach Johnson (2007)
Bernhard Langer (1985, 1993)
Sandy Lyle (1988)
Phil Mickelson (2004, 2006, 2010)
Larry Mize (1987)
Mark O'Meara (1998)
Jose Maria Olazabal (1994, 1999)
Charl Schwartzel (2011)
Vijay Singh (2000)
Craig Stadler (1982)
Bubba Watson (2012)
Tom Watson (1977, 1981)
Mike Weir (2003)
Tiger Woods (1997, 2001, 2002, 2005)
Ian Woosnam (1991)

Amateur invitees
In keeping with the wishes of founder Bobby Jones, the most decorated amateur in golf history, Augusta National continues to reserve several spots for the ams. Of course, that designation is a little different than when Jones played, as most amateurs in the field are simply superstar youngsters who will soon be pros, to the dismay of stodgy old golf writers everywhere. Here are this year's amateur invitees:

Allen Dunbar (British Am Champ)
Steven Fox (US Am Champ)
Tianlang Guan (Asian Am Champ)
Nathan Smith (US Mid-Am Champ)
T.J. Vogel (US Am Pub Links Champ)
Michael Weaver (US Am Runner-up)

Major winners from the past five years
While a Masters winner gets the lifetime invite, the champions of the other piddling majors earn an exemption for only five years. Those 12 players this year are:

Webb Simpson (U.S. Open)
Rory McIlroy (U.S. Open)
Graeme McDowell (U.S. Open)
Lucas Glover (U.S. Open)
Ernie Els (British Open)
Darren Clarke (British Open) **Update - Clarke has withdrawn
Louis Oosthuizen (British Open)
Stewart Cink (British Open)
Padraig Harrington (British Open)
Keegan Bradley (PGA Championship)
Martin Kaymer (PGA Championship)
Y.E. Yang (PGA Championship)

Top 16 (and ties) from the 2012 Masters
There are nine players who earned an automatic invite based on their strong showing last year, including Sergio Garcia, who had that memorable meltdown here and said he wasn't good enough to win majors:

Peter Hanson
Lee Westwood
Ian Poulter
Justin Rose
Adam Scott
Jim Furyk
Sergio Garcia
Hunter Mahan
Kevin Na

Top eight (and ties) from the 2012 U.S. Open
Michael Thompson
David Toms
John Peterson
Jason Dufner

Top four (and ties) from the 2012 British Open & PGA Championship
Brandt Snedeker
David Lynn
Carl Pettersson

The Players Championship Winners from the past three years
The unofficial fifth major in golf, The Players Championship at TPC Sawgrass, also has separate standing with ANGC. While the PGA Tour has no control over the four majors, they can at least take some consolation in that. Here are those three players:

Matt Kuchar
K.J. Choi
Tim Clark

Top 30 from the 2012 PGA Tour money list
This group includes some of the richest players in the world who might have the most pressure this week. These guys repeatedly cashed big checks last year, but are still seeking a major victory:

Luke Donald
Steve Stricker
Dustin Johnson
Rickie Fowler
Nick Watney
Bo Van Pelt
Ryan Moore
Robert Garrigus
Scott Piercy
John Huh
Ben Curtis

PGA Tour event winners since 2012 Masters
These eight players include the last-minute invitees, such as Laird and D.A. Points, who both won in the Texas swing the past two weeks. Potter is the only player in this group who won last year, with the other seven picking up victories since January.

Martin Laird
Marc Leishman
Ted Potter Jr.
Russell Henley
Brian Gay
Kevin Streelman
D.A. Points
John Merrick

Top 50 From 2012 final world rankings
Most of the top 50 from last year qualified in one of the aforementioned ways before the final rankings came out at the end of last season. Here are 13 others who earned entry based on their work last year, with only one American among them:

Paul Lawrie
Francesco Molinari
Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano
Branden Grace
Bill Haas
Nicolas Colsaerts
Jason Day
Hiroyuki Fujita
Matteo Manassero
Thomas Bjorn
Jamie Donaldson
George Coetzee
Thorbjorn Olesen

Top 50 in world rankings two weeks prior to the 2013 Masters
Like the group above, almost the entire current top 50 qualified in another way, but these bubble boys earned late entry last Sunday after the Shell Houston Open:

Fredrik Jacobson
Richard Sterne
Henrik Stenson

Field from the 2012 Tour Championship
The final FedExCup event concludes the PGA Tour season with just 30 players left in the "playoffs." There was only one player from that field who did not already qualify in another way:

John Senden

Special invitations
Because it's Augusta National, they can also invite whoever they damn well please and go outside their strict guidelines. There was substantial pressure to invite Ernie Els last year, but the tournament committee opted not to include the veteran South African who had been a staple at Augusta. This year, however, they extended two special foreign invitations, as the game continues to expand in Asia:

Ryo Ishikawa
Thaworn Wiratchant

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[quote name='jmvargas' timestamp='1365539308' post='6795225']
this point about the masters having the weakest field...too many amateurs..etc..etc...have been brought up before..

....anyone who has studied the history of this event knows why this is so....deal with it!!

it's their event..it's one of most awaited--or even THE most--event of the golf year...it's TV golf coverage is excellent...etc.....

l can hardly wait for it to start!!!
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[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365538620' post='6795113']
Currently he is ranked #163 in world AMATEUR rankings .Now that is a terrific accomplishment for any 14 year old,but it is no where near the level of PGA Tour players.
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Would you be complaining the selection process if the winner of Asian Amateur would have been #1 in world Amateur rankings?

ps. please press spacebar only [b]after,[/b] the punctuation marks, not before.
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If Augusta is determined to invite amateurs,a more equitable way would be to invite the winner of the US Am,the British AM,the top ranked Asian amateur,and the top ranked 2 or 3 members of the US Walker cup team who did not win the Us Am .Eliminate the Asian amateur winner,the Mid -am winner and the Publinks winner.

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All of the majors are different-do you realy want to cookie cutter all of them so they are alike? You can hit a ball down the middle of the fairway at the open championship and have it roll in a pot bunker and have to pitch out backwards. Is that fair? Is life fair? No and neither is major championship golf.

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[quote name='SunkTheBirdie' timestamp='1365598790' post='6799539']
I guess with the diluted field, the Masters would be the easiest Major to win.
[/quote]That's actually a good question.

When you look at the people who have won mutliple majors, the Masters does tend to make up more than their share of wins, so that is a mark in the favor of the Masters being "easier". See below.

However, it's harder to win for people who aren't in it. That sounds like a joke, but if you took a random talented 18 year old golfer and had to bet on him winning some major, you might not want to pick the Masters because he's not going to get as many chances to play in it. John Daly has a lot of DNPs in the Masters. So, in that sense, it is harder to win.

Here's a list of how several of these guys majors were the Masters. They're all above 1/4.

Jack, 6 of 18.
Tiger, 4 of 14
Phil, 3 of 4.
Arnie, 4 of 7.
Player, 3 of 9
Snead, 3 of 7.
Nelson & Seve, 2 out of 5.

Tom Watson is an outlier, with 2 out of 8. He has 5 "British Opens", but still 2 out of 8 is 1/4th, the expected ratio.

It didn't really exist for Sarazen and Hagen, in their primes.

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[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365605691' post='6800413']
[quote name='QEight' timestamp='1365576951' post='6798811']
[quote name='russc' timestamp='1365538620' post='6795113']
Currently he is ranked #163 in world AMATEUR rankings .Now that is a terrific accomplishment for any 14 year old,but it is no where near the level of PGA Tour players.
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Would you be complaining the selection process if the winner of Asian Amateur would have been #1 in world Amateur rankings?

ps. please press spacebar only [b]after,[/b] the punctuation marks, not before.
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If Augusta is determined to invite amateurs,a more equitable way would be to invite the winner of the US Am,the British AM,the top ranked Asian amateur,and the top ranked 2 or 3 members of the US Walker cup team who did not win the Us Am .Eliminate the Asian amateur winner,the Mid -am winner and the Publinks winner.
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It's not about being equitable, nor do they care that they have the weakest field. Of course they could just invite the top 150 in the world but they chose not to and that's their right. We could b**** about every major and how the decide the entrance policy, I personally think these little differences give the tournaments their own unique character

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