Adam Scott projections

[Sean2]

I believe he has more majors in him. I think this will give him a confidence boost, and will motivate him even further. Twenty years ago 32 might have been "old", but today 32 is still very young.

[spitfisher]

I think the burden is off his back, he has a great swing ( Tiger/Harmon 2000)

The flood gates might just be open to compete, need to let the masters buzz settle down first

[sefus12]

World #1, 6 majors..... maybe I'm missing something but I see Scott as one of about 30 guys in that age range that can win a major or a tourney at any given time. Nothing I've seen from him would place him ahead of other guys in that class, even if he does have a major and some of them don't. I think he could win another major or two, but the thought that Scott is going to all of a sudden become Tiger Woods circa the year 2000 is a bit premature. As others mentioned, this is a guy that has won 2 PGA events in a season only once.

[Dave70]

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You guys are all working way too hard. Just go back and get the posts from a year ago about Bubba's glowing future, and stick Adam's name in them.
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Come now, you know that's not a good comparison. Adam has been a consistent 1 or 2 wins per year guy for a long time, with something like four and half years' worth of time in the top ten.
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He's a fine player, but before yesterday, I would have ranked Sergio ahead of him. Sergio has more pro wins, and twice as many top tens in majors.

Yeah, he's better than Bubba. But that didn't stop people from predicting five or six majors for Bubba last year. It just seems that everybody who wins a major is suddenly the next Hogan (in fact they used those exact words to describe Oostie after he won the Open), and it is mathematically impossible for every major winner to win five or six more majors, when there's only been one repeat winner in the last few years.
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Depth is huge right now

Its also why tiger wont win 18 ....look at the depth and young guns arriving

Day is 25! Day At 30 tiger will be 42-43....

[dmbgolfer]

Wasn't Scott #1 in putting the year he won the Players?

[Dave70]

people forget scott made world number 3 in his mid to late 20's with a short putter

The depth in the game is huge now

you can have a guy come out of left feild and shoot 66 in the first round - Marc Lieshman!!

This is why winning majors is getting harder and harder as the depth of talent that can win is huge

Its why Rory as good as he is wont win 10 majors.....he will 7 or 8

Tiger maybe 2 more if hes sorts out his driving which still puts him in vulnarable positions

Adam has always had apure swing and wasnt bad putter just not consistent enough but hey hes not the only one

Lee westwood, Sergio and at times even luke donald hasnt putted well in majors.....

I think Adam will win 4 majors....2 birtish 1 Matsers and one PGA

[c7015]

No reason to think he wont win more ..

I mean he does the most important thing well and that is put himself in contention consistently ... I think having won one it makes it easier for him ...

as for predictions ... I have always expected more than Scott has delivered So I think


1 British
1 US open ...

maybe 1 more masters because how how well past champs seem to play as time goes on


I would expect him to win around the same pace on tour as he does now because of his schedule maybe 1-2 no more than 3 a year

[Dave70]

pretty fit guy too

not going to have that big beer gut hanging over his belt anytime soon

The relief of the pressure valve will do him wonders

[cdnglf]

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World #1, 6 majors..... maybe I'm missing something but I see Scott as one of about 30 guys in that age range that can win a major or a tourney at any given time. Nothing I've seen from him would place him ahead of other guys in that class, even if he does have a major and some of them don't. I think he could win another major or two, but the thought that Scott is going to all of a sudden become Tiger Woods circa the year 2000 is a bit premature. As others mentioned, this is a guy that has won 2 PGA events in a season only once.
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I don't see 6 majors in his future, but I think you're selling him short by grouping him with perennial top-30 guys like GMac, Bubba, Poulter, etc, who don't have nearly as many wins as he does.

He's spent a lot of time in the top ten - he's #3 now, and was also #3 (or was it #2?) a few years ago. Masters, Players, 9 PGA Tour victories in total, with 7 more on the Euro Tour. Tiger aside, the only guys under 40 who come close to that are Rory and Sergio.

[Vindog]

I like Adam Scott quite a bit, however I feel as 1 is the most likely answer. He was close at the Open so I feel as if he is trending well, and thus give him a decent chance at a second Major, but sometimes players get a little hung over. I hope this doesn't happen as he had resurrected his game fairly well.


So most likely just tis one. A good chance at a 2nd (probably a PGA) and a fluke's chance at a 3rd

A Players, a WGC and Green Jacket isn't anything to scoff at for trophies, though...

[sefus12]

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World #1, 6 majors..... maybe I'm missing something but I see Scott as one of about 30 guys in that age range that can win a major or a tourney at any given time. Nothing I've seen from him would place him ahead of other guys in that class, even if he does have a major and some of them don't. I think he could win another major or two, but the thought that Scott is going to all of a sudden become Tiger Woods circa the year 2000 is a bit premature. As others mentioned, this is a guy that has won 2 PGA events in a season only once.
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I don't see 6 majors in his future, but I think you're selling him short by grouping him with perennial top-30 guys like GMac, Bubba, Poulter, etc, who don't have nearly as many wins as he does.

He's spent a lot of time in the top ten - he's #3 now, and was also #3 (or was it #2?) a few years ago. Masters, Players, 9 PGA Tour victories in total, with 7 more on the Euro Tour. Tiger aside, the only guys under 40 who come close to that are Rory and Sergio.
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While Dustin Johnson doesn't have a Major, he has 7 wins on the PGA (9 worldwide) and 5 top-10s in majors. For Comparison Scott has 9 wins (21 worldwide, though I don't hold the Asian, Sunshine, and Australian tour wins in quite as high esteem and that counts for 7 of those worldwide wins), 1 major, and 9 top-10s. After 7 years on the PGA, Scott had 5 wins, 0 majors, and 4-top 10s in majors. I would have to think the trajectory of Johnson's career is just as promising, if not more, than Scott's. And this is just one of the young guns I was referring to.

I see that you really like Scott, but one major win and 9 PGA wins (in 13 years as a pro) does not make me think the guy is a sure-fire HOF'er or make me think I'm really selling Scott short. He has had a good career and will win a few more times, but I don't think this is the proverbial "opening of the flood gates" for Scott.

[cdnglf]

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World #1, 6 majors..... maybe I'm missing something but I see Scott as one of about 30 guys in that age range that can win a major or a tourney at any given time. Nothing I've seen from him would place him ahead of other guys in that class, even if he does have a major and some of them don't. I think he could win another major or two, but the thought that Scott is going to all of a sudden become Tiger Woods circa the year 2000 is a bit premature. As others mentioned, this is a guy that has won 2 PGA events in a season only once.
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I don't see 6 majors in his future, but I think you're selling him short by grouping him with perennial top-30 guys like GMac, Bubba, Poulter, etc, who don't have nearly as many wins as he does.

He's spent a lot of time in the top ten - he's #3 now, and was also #3 (or was it #2?) a few years ago. Masters, Players, 9 PGA Tour victories in total, with 7 more on the Euro Tour. Tiger aside, the only guys under 40 who come close to that are Rory and Sergio.
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While Dustin Johnson doesn't have a Major, he has 7 wins on the PGA (9 worldwide) and 5 top-10s in majors. For Comparison Scott has 9 wins (21 worldwide, though I don't hold the Asian, Sunshine, and Australian tour wins in quite as high esteem and that counts for 7 of those worldwide wins), 1 major, and 9 top-10s. After 7 years on the PGA, Scott had 5 wins, 0 majors, and 4-top 10s in majors. I would have to think the trajectory of Johnson's career is just as promising, if not more, than Scott's. And this is just one of the young guns I was referring to.

I see that you really like Scott, but one major win and 9 PGA wins (in 13 years as a pro) does not make me think the guy is a sure-fire HOF'er or make me think I'm really selling Scott short.
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Its not a matter of liking Scott, just an observation that (after Tiger and Rory), he looks like the guy under 40 who has the best chance of getting to the Hall of Fame. I don't think he's a lock by any means, but I think he has a good chance. He's got better than half of a HoF career in the bag already.

I think age-for-age is a better point of comparison than years on tour. Getting to the bigs at a young age is a huge factor in making the baseball hall of fame, and I think the same is true in golf. In both sports, there is a vast difference between being a 19/20 year old rookie and a 23/24 year old one.

DJ is one of the most promising players out there, but he's only 4 years younger than Scott. Right now, he's a major, a players, and 7 euro victories behind Scott. Think he'll make that up over the next four years? Its not out of the question, but I'm not holding my breath.

Keegan? 6 years younger and he has the major, but only 3 PGA wins total. Webb Simpson? Same, but a year older than Keegan. Good players, but they've got to win the equivalent of one PGA and one Euro Tour event per year for the next 6 years to match Scott.

Schwartzel and Oosthuizen each has a major, but they're well behind Scott in total wins. Oosthuizen is only a couple years younger than Scott anyway.

Kaymer probably has the best chance... 4 years younger, with a major, a couple of PGA wins and nine more Euro wins. If you consider his Euro wins to be as good PGA Tour wins (and in his case, they probably are), he's still 5 wins (one of them a players) behind Scott.

There are some very promising players who are even younger, but I don't think any of them has enough of a track record to project from. Jason Day and Rickie Fowler each have 1 win. Ryo has none. Manassero has 3 euro wins, but hasn't done much against top-tier competition yet.

[Anchor44]

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I'm gonna laugh at the "haters" if/when he goes back to a conventional putter, puts the time during these next two years practicing with it, and wins more often after the ban.
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And you sir would be entitled to your laugh because it is so very unlikely. The guy couldn't buy a putt for quite awhile before he found the crutch, in the form of a broomstick. There's no reason to think he'll suddenly become a master with a traditional putter at an even more advanced age.
But you can dream.

[Awsi Dooger]

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[quote name='One Gray GLI' timestamp='1366054429' post='6850997']
I'm gonna laugh at the "haters" if/when he goes back to a conventional putter, puts the time during these next two years practicing with it, and wins more often after the ban.
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And you sir would be entitled to your laugh because it is so very unlikely. The guy couldn't buy a putt for quite awhile before he found the crutch, in the form of a broomstick. There's no reason to think he'll suddenly become a master with a traditional putter at an even more advanced age.
But you can dream. [/quote]

It's a fantasy to believe he'll go back to a conventional putter, instead of merely using the broomstick putter with the butt an inch or so away from his chest. It's not a big deal. I posted that more than a year ago on this site, that I'd experimented with that approach and it's virtually identical. The anchoring aspect is overrated in terms of the broomstick. I make no assertions regarding the belly because I've never tried it. There's another poster on this site who said he cut down his broomstick 1/2 inch after the proposed ruling, doesn't anchor, and now putts better than previously.

There's going to be plenty of glee when the proposal turns into law, but once the illegality date arrives you'll still see broomsticks and other workarounds. The focus on anchoring alone has always been ridiculous, but that's what you get from old scared guys in back rooms with plenty of time to be scared.

[Dave70]

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World #1, 6 majors..... maybe I'm missing something but I see Scott as one of about 30 guys in that age range that can win a major or a tourney at any given time. Nothing I've seen from him would place him ahead of other guys in that class, even if he does have a major and some of them don't. I think he could win another major or two, but the thought that Scott is going to all of a sudden become Tiger Woods circa the year 2000 is a bit premature. As others mentioned, this is a guy that has won 2 PGA events in a season only once.
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I don't see 6 majors in his future, but I think you're selling him short by grouping him with perennial top-30 guys like GMac, Bubba, Poulter, etc, who don't have nearly as many wins as he does.

He's spent a lot of time in the top ten - he's #3 now, and was also #3 (or was it #2?) a few years ago. Masters, Players, 9 PGA Tour victories in total, with 7 more on the Euro Tour. Tiger aside, the only guys under 40 who come close to that are Rory and Sergio.
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While Dustin Johnson doesn't have a Major, he has 7 wins on the PGA (9 worldwide) and 5 top-10s in majors. For Comparison Scott has 9 wins (21 worldwide, though I don't hold the Asian, Sunshine, and Australian tour wins in quite as high esteem and that counts for 7 of those worldwide wins), 1 major, and 9 top-10s. After 7 years on the PGA, Scott had 5 wins, 0 majors, and 4-top 10s in majors. I would have to think the trajectory of Johnson's career is just as promising, if not more, than Scott's. And this is just one of the young guns I was referring to.

I see that you really like Scott, but one major win and 9 PGA wins (in 13 years as a pro) does not make me think the guy is a sure-fire HOF'er or make me think I'm really selling Scott short.
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Its not a matter of liking Scott, just an observation that (after Tiger and Rory), he looks like the guy under 40 who has the best chance of getting to the Hall of Fame. I don't think he's a lock by any means, but I think he has a good chance. He's got better than half of a HoF career in the bag already.

I think age-for-age is a better point of comparison than years on tour. Getting to the bigs at a young age is a huge factor in making the baseball hall of fame, and I think the same is true in golf. In both sports, there is a vast difference between being a 19/20 year old rookie and a 23/24 year old one.

DJ is one of the most promising players out there, but he's only 4 years younger than Scott. Right now, he's a major, a players, and 7 euro victories behind Scott. Think he'll make that up over the next four years? Its not out of the question, but I'm not holding my breath.

Keegan? 6 years younger and he has the major, but only 3 PGA wins total. Webb Simpson? Same, but a year older than Keegan. Good players, but they've got to win the equivalent of one PGA and one Euro Tour event per year for the next 6 years to match Scott.

Schwartzel and Oosthuizen each has a major, but they're well behind Scott in total wins. Oosthuizen is only a couple years younger than Scott anyway.

Kaymer probably has the best chance... 4 years younger, with a major, a couple of PGA wins and nine more Euro wins. If you consider his Euro wins to be as good PGA Tour wins (and in his case, they probably are), he's still 5 wins (one of them a players) behind Scott.

There are some very promising players who are even younger, but I don't think any of them has enough of a track record to project from. Jason Day and Rickie Fowler each have 1 win. Ryo has none. Manassero has 3 euro wins, but hasn't done much against top-tier competition yet.
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I reckon the hall of fame is croc of baloney

sorry it is - half the time we dont know who's in it unless your a golf nred and want to look at on the net.....

majors are the barometer in this game pure and simple...Luke Donald will be rembered as a great player but f he doesnt win a major he wont be remebered like Carbrera will be....IMO

majors are the real bling bling not tour wins - especially now as we have WGC events also that are like mini majors

Jason Day is plannning his tournaments around majors and its paying off - it's what tiger has done also and Scott did 2 years ago......

[hoselrocketman]

He might pull out a few more wins but no more majors. He just does not seem to have the killer instinct of Nicklaus, Palmer, Woods. He is too nice a guy. Only way he wins another significant tourney is if he backs in.

[jons1]

He'll win 18 majors and break Jacks record.

Seriously, it's pretty obvious what will happen... he will have a long career with the random win

[anth]

He'll go one of 2 ways...

The DLIII route - nice long career, always in contention, average a win every year but no more majors

The Mickelson route - first major at 32 after some near misses, opened the floodgates for multiple majors over the next 10 years.

The thing is when the masters is your first major, you'll always be a good chance because its the only major venue that they play every year. If the course suits you and you have form there you'll always be a chance.

[Dave70]

adam is fit

adam is balanced

adams iron play and short game is very good and he can flat out drive the ball well in tough weather....

he could have had 3 majors by now......with some luck

I keep saying the depth in the game is really deep now and makes it tough to win majors and why I think Tiger wont get to 18....he will win 16....

the thing is the game is truly global now.....and guy ranked 125 in the world can turn up and win a major.....

[sefus12]

[quote name='Dave70' timestamp='1367936647' post='6985332']
adam is fit

adam is balanced

adams iron play and short game is very good and he can flat out drive the ball well in tough weather....

he could have had 3 majors by now......with some luck

I keep saying the depth in the game is really deep now and makes it tough to win majors and why I think Tiger wont get to 18....he will win 16....

the thing is the game is truly global now.....and guy ranked 125 in the world can turn up and win a major.....
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Interesting comment about the depth of the field. Many are using that argument as why Tiger won't get to 18 but a lot of people are also thinking Scott could get 5+. I know Tiger is a bit older, but the only person I see possibly getting more majors than Tiger over the next decade is Rory, and I wouldn't guarantee that. If folks are saying Tiger will only win one or two more, I have a hard time seeing Scott pulling out 4+ more majors.

[dangerman77]

[quote name='Dave70' timestamp='1367936647' post='6985332']
adam is fit

adam is balanced

adams iron play and short game is very good and he can flat out drive the ball well in tough weather....

he could have had 3 majors by now......with some luck

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I think his driving and iron play are phenomenal, routinely among the best on tour for years, and his swing is a thing of beauty.

IMO, his short game is below average, and he is a miserable putter. He has only won one major because of those shortcomings; bad luck had nothing to do with it. I don't think you can consistently compete with his short game and putter with that depth of talent on tour now. 14-1b or not, unless he learns how to read greens, trust his reads, and learns how to putt confidently, he will perhaps sneak one more major, and 6-8 more tour wins, tops.

[cdnglf]

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Interesting comment about the depth of the field. Many are using that argument as why Tiger won't get to 18 but a lot of people are also thinking Scott could get 5+. I know Tiger is a bit older, but the only person I see possibly getting more majors than Tiger over the next decade is Rory, and I wouldn't guarantee that. If folks are saying Tiger will only win one or two more, I have a hard time seeing Scott pulling out 4+ more majors.
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I think I saw 1 comment in this thread predicting that Scott will finish with 5+. Maybe there was more than one, but I don't think its an idea with much traction. I've seen many, many comments on this board suggesting that not only will Tiger get 18, he'll get 20 or more. My guess is the number of people who are predicting both 5+ for Scott and less than 18 for Tiger is very, very small.

A decade from now, Tiger will be 47. Will he still be a good player? If injuries don't completely derail him, probably. But we're talking top 50 good, maybe top 20 good. Not #1 or #2 good. For the majority of the past 10 seasons, Tiger was #1; for a lot of that, he was #1 by a huge margin. That was good enough to win 6 majors. He's not going to be as good at 47 as he is at 37. He's probably not going to be as good at 42 as he is 37, and almost certainly nowhere near as good at 42 as he was as 32.

If there is one thing that this board consistently underrates, its Father Time.

[cardoustie]

Adam Scott gets two more majors. One of them this year

6 more tour wins

Hall of Fame even if he is stuck on 1 or 2 majors and has 18 wins and a PLAYERS

He's close to Freddy now and he got in last night

[G N R]

Kind of interesting reading everyones comments/take on what Adam will do in the coming years. We'll see how he goes this weekend but I see no reason to suggest that he will not be odds on favourite to bag 1-2 more majors. The Masters win will only propel him forward and he looks like the sort of guy who will be even more determined to continue winning.

Confidence and self-belief does wonders.

[Jarri]

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[b]With his Masters win, Adam Scott is now clearly the second best player in his 30s[/b]*. He's not yet 33, with 9 PGA Tour wins including the Masters and the Players, and a further 7 Euro wins. I think a conservative estimate for him is 25 total wins, and a reasonably optimistic estimate is in the low 30s, with one more major. If he takes his game up a notch (which is not unusual for a guy to do in his early to mid thirties) and has some really big years, he might start to approach Phil/Vijay/Ernie level. In any case, I like his Hall of Fame chances.

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* possibly excluding Lee Westwood, who doesn't turn 40 for another week and a half.
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Really? He has two wins in two years. OK, one is the Masters but Snedeker has three wins in two years, FedEx Cup win and a bunch more high finishes than Scott.
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EDIT: Don't know where my head is.

[Pinsplitter59]

I think he is enjoying his lucky life too much.
His mom should take all his money off him and make him hungrier and work harder,
AND learn how to putt better.
THEN - 4 more majors at least, unless Jason Day keeps it in the fairway and steals them from under him, coz he can putt (most of the time).

[eyewipe]

There was an Aussie guy on here a while back saying that Adam used to put the lights out in his early years so he has had skills with the short stick in the past - maybe a major confidence boost will bring some of that back.

In any case his record is actually better than it looks as he doesn't play all that many events and seems to play very few back to back.