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I just read the review article of the CB5 3 wood here on WRX written by Zak, and I am a little perplexed about his review. He is saying that the CB5 is a higher spin 3 wood than some of the other new offerings like the RBZ Stage 2, and that "if you are looking for the newest longest 3 wood on the market, then the Exotics line is probably not the best choice". That is not the exact words that were used in the article, but for the most part, that is pretty much a spot on quote. I am a huge fan of the Exotics fairway line, and from my research and reading other reviews, the Exotics line IS still the distance king. You can see on their website a head to head comparison between the xcg6 and the other current big dog 3 woods (including the RBZ Stage 2, XTD, and X Hot among a few others) and it easily was the longest with the lowest spin rate. Thing is, the xcg6 is supposed to be higher spin than the CB5 according to Tour Edge???? So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills, or someone has their wires crossed. Maybe the Tour Edge rep can chime in on this, as I am in the market for a new 3 wood ( currently have the XTD with the Alpha 70.......yes I am a ho) and while I liked the Stage 2 TP 15* I thought it spun too much as I hit it a mile high. I am contemplating the 13* Stage 2 or the 2 Exotics offerings, or possibly even the new Adams LS. I would just like some clarification from some of my fellow WRX'ers that hopefully have better comprehension skills than me that can clear up my confusion. Any thoughts??

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Can't speak for other players, but I found the CB5 fairway
woods to be a true distance producing club. I use the CB5
4 wood and have found great success with it. As with everything,
your mileage may vary !!!



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It sounds like Zak wrote a review based on his own experience which is all he can do really. What doesn't work for one person isn't necessarily what is going to happen for another person.

As for the stats on the Tour Edge site, just like any other OEM, the numbers are always going to come out in favour of their own clubs, otherwise why would they post those sort of stats in the first place?

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[quote name='harold baines' timestamp='1368716887' post='7046924']
this may be crazy talk, but what's longer for one won't be longer for another

there is no longest club

if you're getting your info from a manufacturers website, you have to think it may be presented in a way to make their own clubs look better (even if they aren't actually better)
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Obviously you have never hit an Exotics 3 wood... I agree that "what may be longer for one may not be for another" due to improper fitting, but I will tell you this, Exotics fairway woods are as long or longer than anything on the market when comparing "properly fit clubs". I understand the whole marketing thing about getting your info from a manufacturers website, but I am also not your run of the mill golf nerd that just accepts everything they read as fact. This test was done by an independent 3rd party using a trackman with robot testing set at 107 mph ss and a pro v1x ball.......pretty much fits my game to a tee (with the exception of the robot part). You see anyone else doing this???? Not to knock other companies products, but Exotics fairway metals are about as hot as they come.....period. I am currently playing an Adams XTD but I am probably going back to either the Exotics line or a lower lofted Stage 2 as my XTD is not the most friendly from the fairway, plus I hate the Fubuki shaft. Anyway, I am not trying to turn this into a RA Ra session for Tour Edge, I am really looking for people that have hit the 2 new offerings from Exotics (CB5 & the XCG6) fairway lineup. No offense, but if you have not hit an Exotics fairway wood, you are wasting your breath replying to this topic as you are just not going to understand or comprehend what those of us that HAVE hit the Exotics line know.

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This thread is extremely timely because I'm trying to work out a TEE fairway puzzle myself right now. I'm a big TEE CB fan and have gone from the CB3 to the CB4 to, just recently, the CB5. Always the 16.5* 4 wood. My experience has been the typical one...really long-hitting clubs, 4 woods that hit as far or farther than any 3 wood I owned previously, etc. Until my CB5! I'm wondering now if I should have just left well enough alone, but I came across a great deal on a mint CB5 with the stock Fubuki Tour 73 stiff. I can't say exactly how much, but I seem to have lost some significant distance with my most recent change. For starters, I seem to be hitting the ball a lot higher than usual, so I'm hoping it's just a function of having the wrong shaft for me. So I just pulled the Fubuki and replaced it with a Blueboard. If that doesn't solve the ballflight issue, I may put an AXE Tour FW shaft in it, which is what I was hitting in the CB4. Again, I hope it's just a shaft fitting issue...I'd hate the think that for some reason the CB5 head is just not as hot as the CB4 and older heads. I just had to ho.....

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I own the cb5 16.5 and its long for sure. I think now adays most clubs are similar in distance. I have heard that the fubuki is too high launching for many people and that might be what the issue was. The cb5 is a bomber though as I can get the 4 wood out to 270 off the tee the only fairway I've hit longer is my ping rapture 14* with tfc 707

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I think part of the spin problem may be the Fubuki Tour shaft. I have the Fubuki Alpha in my XTD and it really seems to hit the ball awfully high with a lot of spin, and it is supposed to be lower spin than the Tour. I am thinking an 80 gram range Blueboard may be a better fit, or at least something of that caliber.

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Sounds good. Hopefully the shaft change will do the trick and I'll be back to hitting bombs like before. I do love the feel of the CB series. Not planning to change any time soon.

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I'm gonna side with Zak on this one. No one on the forum has been a bigger advocate of Exotics Fairways than yours truly. I bagged a CB2 3 and 5 Wood for over 6 years. And truth be told the CB3, 4, nor 5 are longer than the deuce. That being said, I switched to the Stage 2 this winter because they are first, easier to hit from the deck and of secondary importance (to Me) they are a bit longer. I sincerely believe David Glod and his team have designed some of the best looking and performing clubs ever made. But for me, it was time to move onto something that performed a little better.

 

 

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I first want to say, that I am not by any means saying Zaks review was wrong, I was more confused by it than anything. I too played the CB2, and it was BY FAR the longest 3 wood I had ever hit........I still remember having 272 to the flag on the par 5 #7 hole at Rivercut (a local course near me) and flying my ball to the back of the green and having a putt for eagle.....just stupid long. Granted that was a quite a while and 30 pounds ago, but the point being is it was a great club until the Ho in me started messing with the shafts. I have not hit the CB5 nor the XCG6, but in my TEE experience, the XCG series have always been a higher spin model than the CB series. The independent review that was done by a 3rd party was showing the XCG6 to be lower spin than pretty much all the other new offerings.. Maybe the roles have been reversed and the CB5 is the higher spin of the 2??? I emailed the Tour Edge member here on WRX asking for his input, but have not yet received a response. Not saying Zak was wrong, I was just a bit confused about his review based on my knowledge of previous TEE models.

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In my experience, something changed after the CB2. I think they made their CB line a little higher launching and a little higher spin because that's what the majority of players need. It's no secret TEE wasn't exactly dominating market share. They make awesome clubs, but they didn't have the presence of other OEMs.

I played the CB1 16.5* wood for years. Loved it. Tried a CB4 last year and immediately noticed a difference in the flight and the spin, even when I put literally the same exact shaft from my CB1 into the CB4. Both 16.5* heads. TEE always lead the pack with distance on fairway woods because they were the only decently sized mfg to put max COR into a fairway wood. That's why I bought them in the first place.

Other OEMs have caught up and been doing the same thing now, so I don't think TEE quite has the edge (no pun intended) they used to. They still make great woods, but I don't think you'll see a lot of people pay the premium they're charging for their woods when other OEMs can offer the same thing.

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[quote name='harold baines' timestamp='1368716887' post='7046924']
this may be crazy talk, but what's longer for one won't be longer for another

there is no longest club

if you're getting your info from a manufacturers website, you have to think it may be presented in a way to make their own clubs look better (even if they aren't actually better)
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Obviously you have never hit an Exotics 3 wood... I agree that "what may be longer for one may not be for another" due to improper fitting, but I will tell you this, Exotics fairway woods are as long or longer than anything on the market when comparing "properly fit clubs". I understand the whole marketing thing about getting your info from a manufacturers website, but I am also not your run of the mill golf nerd that just accepts everything they read as fact. This test was done by an independent 3rd party using a trackman with robot testing set at 107 mph ss and a pro v1x ball.......pretty much fits my game to a tee (with the exception of the robot part). You see anyone else doing this???? Not to knock other companies products, but Exotics fairway metals are about as hot as they come.....period. I am currently playing an Adams XTD but I am probably going back to either the Exotics line or a lower lofted Stage 2 as my XTD is not the most friendly from the fairway, plus I hate the Fubuki shaft. Anyway, I am not trying to turn this into a RA Ra session for Tour Edge, I am really looking for people that have hit the 2 new offerings from Exotics (CB5 & the XCG6) fairway lineup. No offense, but if you have not hit an Exotics fairway wood, you are wasting your breath replying to this topic as you are just not going to understand or comprehend what those of us that HAVE hit the Exotics line know.
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yeah, but the "independent" 3rd party is being paid by TEE to do the testing, they're not doing it for fun

and why 107 MPH, and why the Prov1X? if you used 104 MPH and a Srixon would it still be longer? what about 109 MPH and a Lethal?

it would have been easy for TEE to determine exactly which ball, and which swingspeed maximized the results in their favor and then specify that the test be done under those conditions, and it's almost certain that's exactly what they did.

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[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368715945' post='7046842']
[b]So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills[/b], or someone has their wires crossed.
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Based on this post, its the first one of those two options. Zak wrote a review of his own experience with the club. That it might not be in complete accord with a comparison done BY TOUR EDGE (wonder if that could possibly be biased), doesn't mean he "has his wires crossed." Also, the fact that the xcg6 is higher spinning than the CB5 has nothing to do with how the cb5 compares spinwise to other clubs. Honestly, if the xtd hasn't had its weights fall out, I doubt you are going to see much of an upgrade in any of the clubs you have mentioned. The xtd was longer that either rbz for me, and the LS felt horrible to me, and didn't give me more distance either. I highly doubt the xcg6 would be good for you if you are trying to get lower spin. The cb5 might give you more distance than the xtd, but I really don't know. Both have their COR pretty much maxed out, so, if there is a difference, it might be buy a few yards.

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[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368715945' post='7046842']
[b]So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills[/b], or someone has their wires crossed.
[/quote]

Based on this post, its the first one of those two options. Zak wrote a review of his own experience with the club. That it might not be in complete accord with a comparison done BY TOUR EDGE (wonder if that could possibly be biased), doesn't mean he "has his wires crossed." Also, the fact that the xcg6 is higher spinning than the CB5 has nothing to do with how the cb5 compares spinwise to other clubs. Honestly, if the xtd hasn't had its weights fall out, I doubt you are going to see much of an upgrade in any of the clubs you have mentioned. The xtd was longer that either rbz for me, and the LS felt horrible to me, and didn't give me more distance either. I highly doubt the xcg6 would be good for you if you are trying to get lower spin. The cb5 might give you more distance than the xtd, but I really don't know. Both have their COR pretty much maxed out, so, if there is a difference, it might be [b]buy[/b] a few yards.
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Ouch! Can you say A$$hole! Boy would I like to meet you in person, I bet you and I would get along realllll good. I was being a bit facetious regarding my statement, and I wasn't necessarily saying that Zak had his wires crossed, that comment could have been directed towards TEE themselves. But you go ahead and be the smart a$$ that responds to my post......oh and [u][b]BY[/b][/u] the way, you might be able to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] a few yards, but maybe you would be better served to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] something to brush up on those grammar skills before alluding to someone elses intelligence........just a thought.

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[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368818901' post='7055282']
[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1368802828' post='7053460']
[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368715945' post='7046842']
[b]So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills[/b], or someone has their wires crossed.
[/quote]

Based on this post, its the first one of those two options. Zak wrote a review of his own experience with the club. That it might not be in complete accord with a comparison done BY TOUR EDGE (wonder if that could possibly be biased), doesn't mean he "has his wires crossed." Also, the fact that the xcg6 is higher spinning than the CB5 has nothing to do with how the cb5 compares spinwise to other clubs. Honestly, if the xtd hasn't had its weights fall out, I doubt you are going to see much of an upgrade in any of the clubs you have mentioned. The xtd was longer that either rbz for me, and the LS felt horrible to me, and didn't give me more distance either. I highly doubt the xcg6 would be good for you if you are trying to get lower spin. The cb5 might give you more distance than the xtd, but I really don't know. Both have their COR pretty much maxed out, so, if there is a difference, it might be [b]buy[/b] a few yards.
[/quote]

Ouch! Can you say A$$hole! Boy would I like to meet you in person, I bet you and I would get along realllll good. I was being a bit facetious regarding my statement, and I wasn't necessarily saying that Zak had his wires crossed, that comment could have been directed towards TEE themselves. But you go ahead and be the smart a$$ that responds to my post......oh and [u][b]BY[/b][/u] the way, you might be able to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] a few yards, but maybe you would be better served to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] something to brush up on those grammar skills before alluding to someone elses intelligence........just a thought.
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No, that's ok. I was typing on an ipad and it incorrectly autocorrected. I stand by my earlier comments about your reading comprehension skills/intelligence.

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Based on this post, its the first one of those two options. Zak wrote a review of his own experience with the club. That it might not be in complete accord with a comparison done BY TOUR EDGE (wonder if that could possibly be biased), doesn't mean he "has his wires crossed." Also, the fact that the xcg6 is higher spinning than the CB5 has nothing to do with how the cb5 compares spinwise to other clubs. Honestly, if the xtd hasn't had its weights fall out, I doubt you are going to see much of an upgrade in any of the clubs you have mentioned. The xtd was longer that either rbz for me, and the LS felt horrible to me, and didn't give me more distance either. I highly doubt the xcg6 would be good for you if you are trying to get lower spin. The cb5 might give you more distance than the xtd, but I really don't know. Both have their COR pretty much maxed out, so, if there is a difference, it might be [b]buy[/b] a few yards.
[/quote]

Ouch! Can you say A$$hole! Boy would I like to meet you in person, I bet you and I would get along realllll good. I was being a bit facetious regarding my statement, and I wasn't necessarily saying that Zak had his wires crossed, that comment could have been directed towards TEE themselves. But you go ahead and be the smart a$$ that responds to my post......oh and [u][b]BY[/b][/u] the way, you might be able to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] a few yards, but maybe you would be better served to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] something to brush up on those grammar skills before alluding to someone elses intelligence........just a thought.
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is that a grammar mistake or a spelling mistake?

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[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368818901' post='7055282']
[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1368802828' post='7053460']
[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368715945' post='7046842']
[b]So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills[/b], or someone has their wires crossed.
[/quote]

Based on this post, its the first one of those two options. Zak wrote a review of his own experience with the club. That it might not be in complete accord with a comparison done BY TOUR EDGE (wonder if that could possibly be biased), doesn't mean he "has his wires crossed." Also, the fact that the xcg6 is higher spinning than the CB5 has nothing to do with how the cb5 compares spinwise to other clubs. Honestly, if the xtd hasn't had its weights fall out, I doubt you are going to see much of an upgrade in any of the clubs you have mentioned. The xtd was longer that either rbz for me, and the LS felt horrible to me, and didn't give me more distance either. I highly doubt the xcg6 would be good for you if you are trying to get lower spin. The cb5 might give you more distance than the xtd, but I really don't know. Both have their COR pretty much maxed out, so, if there is a difference, it might be [b]buy[/b] a few yards.
[/quote]

Ouch! Can you say A$$hole! Boy would I like to meet you in person, I bet you and I would get along realllll good. I was being a bit facetious regarding my statement, and I wasn't necessarily saying that Zak had his wires crossed, that comment could have been directed towards TEE themselves. But you go ahead and be the smart a$$ that responds to my post......oh and [u][b]BY[/b][/u] the way, you might be able to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] a few yards, but maybe you would be better served to [u][b]BUY[/b][/u] something to brush up on those grammar skills before alluding to someone elses intelligence........just a thought.
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No, that's ok. I was typing on an ipad and it incorrectly autocorrected. I stand by my earlier comments about your reading comprehension skills/intelligence.
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Funny, I also am on an iPad, and mine only corrects spelling mistakes....guess you must have the iPad for dummies version. I also stand by my earlier comment that you are an a$$. So I guess we can agree that you and I probably won't be teeing it up together anytime in the near future.....

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[quote name='harold baines' timestamp='1368802588' post='7053428']
[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368728472' post='7048374']
[quote name='harold baines' timestamp='1368716887' post='7046924']
this may be crazy talk, but what's longer for one won't be longer for another

there is no longest club

if you're getting your info from a manufacturers website, you have to think it may be presented in a way to make their own clubs look better (even if they aren't actually better)
[/quote]

Obviously you have never hit an Exotics 3 wood... I agree that "what may be longer for one may not be for another" due to improper fitting, but I will tell you this, Exotics fairway woods are as long or longer than anything on the market when comparing "properly fit clubs". I understand the whole marketing thing about getting your info from a manufacturers website, but I am also not your run of the mill golf nerd that just accepts everything they read as fact. This test was done by an independent 3rd party using a trackman with robot testing set at 107 mph ss and a pro v1x ball.......pretty much fits my game to a tee (with the exception of the robot part). You see anyone else doing this???? Not to knock other companies products, but Exotics fairway metals are about as hot as they come.....period. I am currently playing an Adams XTD but I am probably going back to either the Exotics line or a lower lofted Stage 2 as my XTD is not the most friendly from the fairway, plus I hate the Fubuki shaft. Anyway, I am not trying to turn this into a RA Ra session for Tour Edge, I am really looking for people that have hit the 2 new offerings from Exotics (CB5 & the XCG6) fairway lineup. No offense, but if you have not hit an Exotics fairway wood, you are wasting your breath replying to this topic as you are just not going to understand or comprehend what those of us that HAVE hit the Exotics line know.
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yeah, but the "independent" 3rd party is being paid by TEE to do the testing, they're not doing it for fun

and why 107 MPH, and why the Prov1X? if you used 104 MPH and a Srixon would it still be longer? what about 109 MPH and a Lethal?

it would have been easy for TEE to determine exactly which ball, and which swingspeed maximized the results in their favor and then specify that the test be done under those conditions, and it's almost certain that's exactly what they did.
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I see your point, I was looking more at the spin rates than the total distance. I like the fact that they used the ProV1x, because that is the ball I play, but again, I see your point. I think this is the TEE answer to Taylormade, and Callaway regarding their marketing claims of the distance gains from their RBZ and X Hot lines. Even though this is a 3rd party that conducted their test, I would assume they made sure the conditions were optimal in their favor when the test was conducted.......but that is only an assumption on my part.

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Funny, I also am on an iPad, and mine only corrects spelling mistakes....guess you must have the iPad for dummies version. I also stand by my earlier comment that you are an a$$. So I guess we can agree that you and I probably won't be teeing it up together anytime in the near future.....
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Well, in the future, for your information (so maybe you'll learn although it's clear to me that learning isn't exactly one of your strong suits), don't make statements like this: "So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills, or someone has their wires crossed," if you don't want such a statement answered. You can say you were joking, but if you were joking, what was the point of your entire post? You go on this long ramble and basically ask whether you or zak was wrong. You make a completely irrelevant comment about the spin rate of the xcg6 (which has NOTHING to do with how the spin of the cb5 compares to other 3 woods), you reference some study that Tour Edge themselves conducted, then asked whether you have no reading comprehension or not. Well, I certainly wouldn't have brought something like that up myself, but, since you opened the door to it, it seemed like a logical answer. Quite frankly, the most likely answer to your inane rambling was that you misunderstood something, and you did. You assumed that if Zak's observations didn't agree with a study that Tour Edge conducted, then something had to be wrong. There are a million reasons why Zak may have gotten different results than Tour Edge. If you had thought about it (although, again, thinking doesn't appear to be your strong suit), you'd have realized that maybe Tour Edge could have been going after a certain result, that the spin rate of the xcg6 has NOTHING to do with the cb5 compared to other brands, and that the only one who might have wires crossed is you for making such a pointless post.

Also, btw, I bet we have the same ipad. Mine corrects "byy" to buy. I type pretty fast and frequently duplicate letters. So yes, I made a typing mistake by typing "by" as "byy" and it autocorrected to a misspelled word. As someone else has pointed out, that would be a spelling mistake, not a grammar mistake.

Besides all this, great points bruh.

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I think I recall reading on another site that the CB4 tour, when compared to the original RBZ WAS longer at a specific swing speed, but for whatever reason is not necessarily at other swing speeds. Just going from memory. Could be why "107 mph with a PROV1" was chosen.

That being said, I'm a huge fan of the CB4 tour. For me the 15 degree was better all the way around than the original RBZ. The XHOT Pro might have been longer. Lower launch, much lower spin and the bulk of the extra distance was roll. Didnt feel like I'd be able to control it either. 3 deep was a bit longer in the air, launched in between the CB4 and XHOT Pro, carried about 5 yds further and rolled 10 yds more. Some of that distance might be the half inch longer shaft as well.

If I was looking for a mini driver, I'd probably opt for a 13 deg 3 deep and a 4 wood cb4 tour from the fairway, best of both worlds. Since i want versatility out of one club, I'll stick with the CB4 tour. I could hit the 14.5 3 deep from the fairway, but I dont know that it would hold a green. Dont have that worry with my CB4 tour.

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[quote name='evanseze' timestamp='1368825222' post='7055880']

Funny, I also am on an iPad, and mine only corrects spelling mistakes....guess you must have the iPad for dummies version. I also stand by my earlier comment that you are an a$$. So I guess we can agree that you and I probably won't be teeing it up together anytime in the near future.....
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Well, in the future, for your information (so maybe you'll learn although it's clear to me that learning isn't exactly one of your strong suits), don't make statements like this: "So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills, or someone has their wires crossed," if you don't want such a statement answered. You can say you were joking, but if you were joking, what was the point of your entire post? You go on this long ramble and basically ask whether you or zak was wrong. You make a completely irrelevant comment about the spin rate of the xcg6 (which has NOTHING to do with how the spin of the cb5 compares to other 3 woods), you reference some study that Tour Edge themselves conducted, then asked whether you have no reading comprehension or not. Well, I certainly wouldn't have brought something like that up myself, but, since you opened the door to it, it seemed like a logical answer. Quite frankly, the most likely answer to your inane rambling was that you misunderstood something, and you did. You assumed that if Zak's observations didn't agree with a study that Tour Edge conducted, then something had to be wrong. There are a million reasons why Zak may have gotten different results than Tour Edge. If you had thought about it (although, again, thinking doesn't appear to be your strong suit), you'd have realized that maybe Tour Edge could have been going after a certain result, that the spin rate of the xcg6 has NOTHING to do with the cb5 compared to other brands, and that the only one who might have wires crossed is you for making such a pointless post.

Also, btw, I bet we have the same ipad. Mine corrects "byy" to buy. I type pretty fast and frequently duplicate letters. So yes, I made a typing mistake by typing "by" as "byy" and it autocorrected to a misspelled word. As someone else has pointed out, that would be a spelling mistake, not a grammar mistake.

Besides all this, great points bruh.
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Funny, I also am on an iPad, and mine only corrects spelling mistakes....guess you must have the iPad for dummies version. I also stand by my earlier comment that you are an a$$. So I guess we can agree that you and I probably won't be teeing it up together anytime in the near future.....
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Well, in the future, for your information (so maybe you'll learn although it's clear to me that learning isn't exactly one of your strong suits), don't make statements like this: "So, apparently I am either an idiot with zero comprehension skills, or someone has their wires crossed," if you don't want such a statement answered. You can say you were joking, but if you were joking, what was the point of your entire post? You go on this long ramble and basically ask whether you or zak was wrong. You make a completely irrelevant comment about the spin rate of the xcg6 (which has NOTHING to do with how the spin of the cb5 compares to other 3 woods), you reference some study that Tour Edge themselves conducted, then asked whether you have no reading comprehension or not. Well, I certainly wouldn't have brought something like that up myself, but, since you opened the door to it, it seemed like a logical answer. Quite frankly, the most likely answer to your inane rambling was that you misunderstood something, and you did. You assumed that if Zak's observations didn't agree with a study that Tour Edge conducted, then something had to be wrong. There are a million reasons why Zak may have gotten different results than Tour Edge. If you had thought about it (although, again, thinking doesn't appear to be your strong suit), you'd have realized that maybe Tour Edge could have been going after a certain result, that the spin rate of the xcg6 has NOTHING to do with the cb5 compared to other brands, and that the only one who might have wires crossed is you for making such a pointless post.

Also, btw, I bet we have the same ipad. Mine corrects "byy" to buy. I type pretty fast and frequently duplicate letters. So yes, I made a typing mistake by typing "by" as "byy" and it autocorrected to a misspelled word. As someone else has pointed out, that would be a spelling mistake, not a grammar mistake.

Besides all this, great points bruh.
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Man, you are one mouthy punk that is in severe need of an a** beating. Too bad I don't live in the Dallas area, I would love to meet up with you and finish this conversation in person. You apparently are too young and dumb to understand the subject of my topic, and it is also obvious this thread is too much for your immature pea sized brain to grasp, but in that regards I can't help you. Comparing the spin rate of the XCG6 and the CB5 has everything to do with my post. The CB series has always been the lower spin "players" line compared to the higher spin XCG line. The chart shows the XCG6 as much lower spin than the current top fairway woods from the other major companies suggesting to me that, based on previous experience, the CB5 should be really low spin.....apparently that may not be the case. I never asked who was right or wrong and I never said anything about joking. I was wanting intelligent feedback from people that had first hand experience with the new TEE line that could offer some further insight regarding Zaks review. Maybe the way I worded it was too complex for you, next time I will try to "dumb down" my post so that you can respond with a sensible reply and not sound like some mouthy little punk that has nothing to offer. Obviously this post is over your head, so please move on to another topic that you can comprehend and maybe, although doubtful, you can actually contribute to that one.

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